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Old 01-04-2014, 06:54 PM   #1
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How low can you lean on a drz with leg out at the track?

I know this is a stupid question, but I just got a DRZ400, and would love to start taking it out to the track to just "have fun" next season (Most likely: GSS and MSRH). I've done plenty of track days on a 600 and so I'm familiar with the "proper knee out body position."

I was planning on running some Bridgestone S20s (it will be 90% street, 10% track). I wanted to ride it completely leg out supermoto style, again just for fun factor. I know for for the faster sweeping turns, it's probably better and safer to run knee out sportbike style but I'm just aiming to goof around and do something different. I was wondering, how low can I lean a DRZ on street tires crossed up leg out style? I would hate to be doing leg out coming into the carousel at MSRH and just completely lowside because I'm being stupid.

Anyone have pictures or advice of how low I can push it down? And yes, I'm aware of all the pro who basically are laying the bike down on its side and folding pegs. My answer to that:

1. I'm not a good rider at all lol.
2. I'm sure they have better tires/stickier tires than my s20s.

Looking for some real experience stories, but curious at what others think as well. Thanks!
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Your gonna cross urself up....but if u must...in theory should be able to grind the pegs down. Only one guy Ive seen at GSS to ride like that but its more of a brake super late, dip in and gas gas gas out the turn. He's fast and it works for him but not for all. All the super duper fast mofos at GSS ride knee out style.

I had BT016s on my DRZ and it handled stuck pretty good till I tried keeping up with those fast guys....then I slide on my ...
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That looks about as low as you can go...
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Your gonna cross urself up....but if u must...in theory should be able to grind the pegs down. Only one guy Ive seen at GSS to ride like that but its more of a brake super late, dip in and gas gas gas out the turn. He's fast and it works for him but not for all. All the super duper fast mofos at GSS ride knee out style.

I had BT016s on my DRZ and it handled stuck pretty good till I tried keeping up with those fast guys....then I slide on my ...
Thanks for the tip, is there anything wrong with riding crossed up on a moto? Also, what allows the supermotos to lean so much farther than sportbikes?
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Old 01-04-2014, 10:30 PM   #5
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I saw Terrell get his fork sliders on the inside curb at a kart track on his DRZ riding foot out. He also came as close as you can come to highsiding without actually highsiding moments later. He was on Bridgestone 003.
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Thanks for the tip, is there anything wrong with riding crossed up on a moto? Also, what allows the supermotos to lean so much farther than sportbikes?
By crossed up I meant confused on how to ride. Your gonna wanna stick a knee out but maybe get a leg out at the same time kinda crossed up, or maybe thats just confused! At least for me I didnt want to mess with the two. Just saw what everyone else was doing and went with it.

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I saw Terrell get his fork sliders on the inside curb at a kart track on his DRZ riding foot out. He also came as close as you can come to highsiding without actually highsiding moments later. He was on Bridgestone 003.
Terrells also got more than most of us plus he stunts so that helps a lot. He ended up saying the BT003 were horrible tires they are awesome too me but it could of been his riding style.



OP which ever u pick just stick with it. Practice at it then u could change it up. 3 years after riding supermotos and I am still trying lean knee out. Lookin forward to see the lightweight group back at GSS
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Ill start by saying I have no paved track experience. Only motocross since I was 9. Having said that. When I attempted any speed on my drz I always dI'd foot out cause it felt right and seemed easier to control while sliding. But I think your riding background determines what works best for you. So changing to foot out may not be the best idea if you have been doing knee out.
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Bout this low with the leg out style .




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Ill start by saying I have no paved track experience. Only motocross since I was 9. Having said that. When I attempted any speed on my drz I always dI'd foot out cause it felt right and seemed easier to control while sliding. But I think your riding background determines what works best for you. So changing to foot out may not be the best idea if you have been doing knee out.
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I know you can drag foot pegs with no problems on the street on pilot powers.
I swear by those tires tho. Yes you can even slide axle sliders on a berm at the track but it gets hairy lol.
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I think the problem with those 003s were they were take offs and the rear had a very tall sidewall/too narrow.
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I think the problem with those 003s were they were take offs and the rear had a very tall sidewall/too narrow.
I think the problem was your rear tire pivoted off of the ground once the slider hit the curb.
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I used to ride knee out, but changed to leg out eventually. The real benefit of going leg out is the quick transitions from left to right. With your leg out, your body stays above the bike and you can work the bars easily if you get into a hairy situation. Knee out seems much more stable at high speed sweepers. I haven't ever been to GSS, but MSRH is not tight enough to really benefit from going foot out.

As far as how low you can go, if I don't have sliders on my footpegs, I wouldn't have any. On the street with street tires, it's easy to grind away your footpegs if you're going foot out. I do worry about bottoming out the footpeg which would lead to "rotating" the bike, ultimately crashing, probably ending up high siding.

Foot out is way more fun IMO!
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