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Old 04-18-2007, 09:19 PM   #1
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Do you think people with criminal records have their record cleared if they serve???

what do you guys think???

Now I'm not talking about offenders and crimes like that of course.
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Old 04-18-2007, 09:23 PM   #2
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i think it would be okay.
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Old 04-18-2007, 09:27 PM   #3
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Define "record cleared"?
How serious of an offense?
Are you talking about reinstating the right to vote etc?
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Old 04-18-2007, 09:29 PM   #4
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Define "record cleared"?
How serious of an offense?
Are you talking about reinstating the right to vote etc?
I'm thinking record cleared. or at least sealed so that if they commit another crime then it's unsealed and held against them.

I'm taling good enough where they can go somewhere and get a job and not have a record holding them back.

I feel if a person is good enough to go somewhere and take a bullet for someone he should be good enough to hire.
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Old 04-18-2007, 09:31 PM   #5
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i think if a person is willing to go through all that to get a clean record he wants one for the right reason.

to actually get the behind him to get busy living.
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Lot's of mitigating factors.
Was it a one time offense or multiple?
How serious was the offense?

Yes people change and I believe everyone deserves a second chance.
How do you quantify though who has changed and who hasn't.

Perhaps an idea would be that if a convict stays clean for X amount of years, based on his offenses, his record would be sealed?
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Old 04-18-2007, 09:42 PM   #7
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if you dont want it on your record, dont do it, dont care of your 16 or 46, dont want it on your record, dont do it
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if you dont want it on your record, dont do it, dont care of your 16 or 46, dont want it on your record, dont do it
if you were given a chance to get your arm and your leg back would you get them??? think real hard and you want reply with "apples to oranges."
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if you were given a chance to get your arm and your leg back would you get them??? think real hard and you want reply with "apples to oranges."

well, i understand what your saying, but my accident was a freak accident, smoking pot or robbing a bank, any other crime that you commit, you mean to do it. i didnt go riding that day planning on hitting a truck, wasnt part of the day plans. now if you want to go get high, you call a friend, get a hook-up, get high, you mean to get high.

BTW- to tell you the honest truth, no i wouldnt change anything, i STRONGLY believe everything happens for a reason, has me this way for a reason, not sure what it is yet, but there is one
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maybe you'd feel differently if you were in prison now because of your little drunk driving accident, as you very well could be.
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maybe you'd feel differently if you were in prison now because of your little drunk driving accident, as you very well could be.

your right, and i was waiting for that to come up, again, everything happens for a reason, and my a$$ shoulda gone to prison, or had probation time or something........but i didnt
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if you were given a chance to get your arm and your leg back would you get them??? think real hard and you want reply with "apples to oranges."


if they comited a crime they should pay for it

now if is going to take time, so be it

laws are imposed for a reason, we brake em we pay em

yes some ppl deserve another chance, first they pay their sentence

then yes they might get a second chance just my .02
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if they comited a crime they should pay for it

now if is going to take time, so be it

laws are imposed for a reason, we brake em we pay em

yes some ppl deserve another chance, first they pay their sentence

then yes they might get a second chance just my .02
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I'm not saying a person don't serve their sentence. i'm saying afterwards why couldn't he do time in the service to seal his record so that his past isn't a factor that's holding him back from being able to walk the straight line if he wants to. as i stated before if the dudes or lady is good enough to go over there and take a bullet and possible lose their life for YOU shouldn't they be able to be free of their record afterwards.
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I'm not saying a person don't serve their sentence. i'm saying afterwards why couldn't he do time in the service to seal his record so that his past isn't a factor that's holding him back from being able to walk the straight line if he wants to. as i stated before if the dudes or lady is good enough to go over there and take a bullet and possible lose their life for YOU shouldn't they be able to be free of their record afterwards.

you know, i kinda agree with you, i guess it would have to be on a case-by-case kinda thing,

like if they had only one thing on thier record, and went to the service, ok, but some guy with 5 things, i would say no, but i guess it just depends on what he/she did.

like i said, it really would have to be case-by-case
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I'm not saying a person don't serve their sentence. i'm saying afterwards why couldn't he do time in the service to seal his record so that his past isn't a factor that's holding him back from being able to walk the straight line if he wants to. as i stated before if the dudes or lady is good enough to go over there and take a bullet and possible lose their life for YOU shouldn't they be able to be free of their record afterwards.
i totally disagree with the serving idea.. thats why so many people wanna go to the army navy etc

not to fight for you or me, just to get their clean record and go and money to college of course just some

is just like a defensive driving class to drop a ticket?

i think instead of that a good comunity service and probation

they went clean then yes why not
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i totally disagree with the serving idea.. thats why so many people wanna go to the army navy etc

not to fight for you or me, just to get their clean record and go and money to college of course just some

is just like a defensive driving class to drop a ticket?

i think instead of that a good comunity service and probation

they went clean then yes why not
remember a good number of convicted felons stormed the beaches of normady.

I bet the same can be said for a good number of people serving. don't you think.
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remember a good number of convicted felons stormed the beaches of normady.

I bet the same can be said for a good number of people serving. don't you think.
yes but they didnt have that in their mind, u know what i mean?

now of course i said some cant say how many lol

what i meant is it shouldnt be a way out, if anyone is in the armed forces

should be because they made the decision to serve, not to get something erased

i see your point but i feel they can get cleared in some other way

i dont think the army is the solution
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yes but they didnt have that in their mind, u know what i mean?

now of course i said some cant say how many lol

what i meant is it shouldnt be a way out, if anyone is in the armed forces

should be because they made the decision to serve, not to get something erased

i see your point but i feel they can get cleared in some other way

i dont think the army is the solution
so you're saying people that need money for college or to have a steady job shouldn't join if that's their main reason for joining??? weird.
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