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Old 12-24-2013, 08:47 AM   #1
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MH Member who shot the carjacker yesterday?

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stole a truck with two dirtbikes in the back. The victim caught up to him and shot em

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Interesting that they chased him down, fired and no-recorse ( yet ) He did answer the question correctly about thinking the car jacker had a gun.

But I am wondering, does this fall under recovering your property if you belive it cannot be replaced?
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In this case I'm not even sure you'd need to be on fear for you life. Now that your vehicle is an extension of your home don't you have the right to protect it? If someone is in your home you can shoot them without your life being threatened so maybe you can do the same with your vehicle? I'm sure someone with more knowledge of the law will come in.
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In this case I'm not even sure you'd need to be on fear for you life. Now that your vehicle is an extension of your home don't you have the right to protect it? If someone is in your home you can shoot them without your life being threatened so maybe you can do the same with your vehicle? I'm sure someone with more knowledge of the law will come in.
This is what Im thinkin too....If someone breaks into my truck, steals it(especially if my motorcycles are in the back) and I have a way to catch up to them Im not going to let them get away......I would do almost exactly what these guys did...catch up to them, stop them, not sure I would go chasing them on foot though
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I can see charges being brought up later as he had recovered the vehicle and property when the perp ran away. they were no longer in danger nor had any reason to fear for their lives after he had run away.
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I can see charges being brought up later as he had recovered the vehicle and property when the perp ran away. they were no longer in danger nor had any reason to fear for their lives after he had run away.
I'm with this guy, its coming and hopefully the guy can weather the storm for it.
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I'm with this guy, its coming and hopefully the guy can weather the storm for it.
While I understand the dangerous slippery slope that allowing vigilantism creates, I think a person could make a reasonable argument that, given current budget and staffing trends within police departments locally and nationwide, it is not uncommon for a crime such as this to go unsolved, and the vehicles unrecoverable. Therefore it makes sense for a private citizen, who has the means to recover and/or defend his own property, to take matters into his own hands to do so.
Take all your vice laws and throw them out the window. Start hanging thieves and watch the recidivism rate drop dramatically. Thievery of anything, be it property, money or life, should carry an absolutely terrible punishment. This thief paid with his life. Justice has been served.
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Start hanging thieves and watch the recidivism rate drop dramatically. Thievery of anything, be it property, money or life, should carry an absolutely terrible punishment. This thief paid with his life. Justice has been served.
I used to think it would be a good idea to do it the ancient way and cut off a hand, but that would just give them an excuse for not finding legitimate work. We should just cut off their . That would help end a cycle
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I did see that. However he crashed the perp into the guardrail and the perp took off running, if the owner feared for his life and/or feared the perp had a weapon why did he chase him across the highway and access road? the statement makes no sense "I feared for my life because I though he had a weapon, so I chased after him."

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While I understand the dangerous slippery slope that allowing vigilantism creates, I think a person could make a reasonable argument that, given current budget and staffing trends within police departments locally and nationwide, it is not uncommon for a crime such as this to go unsolved, and the vehicles unrecoverable. Therefore it makes sense for a private citizen, who has the means to recover and/or defend his own property, to take matters into his own hands to do so.
Take all your vice laws and throw them out the window. Start hanging thieves and watch the recidivism rate drop dramatically. Thievery of anything, be it property, money or life, should carry an absolutely terrible punishment. This thief paid with his life. Justice has been served.
I sure would have chased after the person also and crashed him into the guardrail. However once my vehicle and bikes were recovered and the thief ran off there was no longer a crime against me being committed and myself nor my property were in danger.
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While I understand the dangerous slippery slope that allowing vigilantism creates, I think a person could make a reasonable argument that, given current budget and staffing trends within police departments locally and nationwide, it is not uncommon for a crime such as this to go unsolved, and the vehicles unrecoverable. Therefore it makes sense for a private citizen, who has the means to recover and/or defend his own property, to take matters into his own hands to do so.
Take all your vice laws and throw them out the window. Start hanging thieves and watch the recidivism rate drop dramatically. Thievery of anything, be it property, money or life, should carry an absolutely terrible punishment. This thief paid with his life. Justice has been served.
I agree 100% but I thought he only winged him in the wrist? that means civil suit coming soon too probably, you know the thief can't work /steal and how is he gonna support his family of 10? the guy that shot him will pay, remember the society that this will be judged in, its not a normal society anymore and common sense is long gone.
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You know the cops coached the guy through this so hed wouldnt get in trouble.
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I agree 100% but I thought he only winged him in the wrist? that means civil suit coming soon too probably, you know the thief can't work /steal and how is he gonna support his family of 10? the guy that shot him will pay, remember the society that this will be judged in, its not a normal society anymore and common sense is long gone.
The victim is likely to have to defend himself in court but, he doesn't have to prove the bad guy actually had a weapon. As long as he can reasonably say he "thought" there was a weapon, then he had reason to defend himself.
Now a civil case is likely to be very different. He could be screwed there unless the jury helps him out, which has happened.
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I like how they shot the dude and then dragged his back across the service road! Thievery is a dangerous business, you better be willing to deal with the consequences!
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