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Old 12-24-2013, 08:46 AM   #101
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..... you're going to your pants when you find out most clubs were founded by veterans including both the hells angels and outlaws which are both original 1%s ....
Most everyone already knows this. Which fits because that structure is what they feel most comfrtable in.

On a side note, I would like to congragulate everyone on planet earth. As everyone is now a member of the "Official Un-Official Motorcycle, Non-Motorcycle Club" or the "OU-OMN-MC" some members are more active then others, we have trillions in finance and the most infuential people on earth. This group is 100% sanctioned by the Anunnaki. Welcome!
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Why is a territory needed though? I think that is what confuses me.

Territory is always associated with gang activity.

But why would there be conflict if you are saying clubs are not gangs or violent?

The activities you describe makes it sound like gangs/thugs. When you talk about territories and permission and colors and where you can wear or are "allowed" to.

Good luck to you, but I've had just as much or maybe even more fun just meeting folks from this site in different rides, meets and trackdays. I doubt there is something more that an MC could offer me or a huge percentage of the people here.

...and I think that's why you get this kind of resistance on these posts.
This. We're on this site because we were all looking for like minded people to ride with, hang out with, discuss things, etc. We get most of those things here. I've met a lot of great people here, some that I consider good friends now. So, many of us aren't looking elsewhere for that. Me personally, I don't want all the red tape that comes with being in a MC. Wearing or being unable to wear colors/patches in certain places, permission to ride certain places, dues, meetings, making it something I HAVE to do, prospecting. I'm not knocking people that do though. If you enjoy it, do it. Its your life not mine. Its like people who talk to guys with stretched bikes, chrome, lights, and all that stuff. Its their bikes, lives, and money, let them do what they want with it. None of it affects me personally so have fun and do your thing
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Craig you know your in the Halffast gang and this is our territory..! Wait or is it the DORCs turf!... All these "names". Making my head hurt! So is MH a gang if we all stop a freeway for burnouts and circle wheelies?
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Craig you know your in the Halffast gang and this is our territory..! Wait or is it the DORCs turf!... All these "names". Making my head hurt! So is MH a gang if we all stop a freeway for burnouts and circle wheelies?
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The truth is that everyone on MH are part of a brother/sisterhood. I have, and always will help other riders weather they have a vest or not. I have seen the SDR stop eating lunch at Yankees to go help the BORC. When I am not riding I have a ramp in my truck bed incase anyone has trouble.
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The truth is that everyone on MH are part of a brother/sisterhood. I have, and always will help other riders weather they have a vest or not. I have seen the SDR stop eating lunch at Yankees to go help the BORC. When I am not riding I have a ramp in my truck bed incase anyone has trouble.
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Would like to point out people are quick to condemn a mc club but there is how who tell you what you can do with your house, pta deciding rules for your children, if any of you belong to country clubs they tell you what to wear, the DMV tells you what you have to have on your car to be legal or how to drive, tour churches have a hierarchy, your employer has a chain of command, postal service tells you what you can and can't mail, so it seems to me you saying you want to be free isn't really a good excuse because even though you want to ride like you feel like or how you want you're still subject to DMV that you have no problem following.

You're controlled by more than you think and have no problem till the word mc is associated. No one is forcing you to join, and having different clubs being regulated by a council is good to keep everyone in check. And yes if there is a member from the banditos on there, maybe its to make sure everyone follows the rules to keep from interfering with them and that's a good thing because I would not want to cross paths with them.

So if all of you want to associate all mc clubs as 1% fine if it helps you sleep at night. Armyape how many people have you shot or how many stores have you vandalized or property trashed because you are in a mc? Lets just ask since all clubs are 1% clubs.
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My MC club is free. You can ride where you want. One main reule is tha tyou have to have a heart beat to join.

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I heard (from a credible source) that certain chapters of Banditos are joining forces with the Hells Angels due to the Mongols taking territory...so who's rules are enforced here? Seems like taxation without representation.

Makes you wonder how many MC clubs are extorted and how much deeper these rules go than just colors and crossing paths.

Only way out is by religious means and then there is the CMA to help those out of their "Outlaw Life". I guess we all have holes to fill and try to fill them with something.
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I heard (from a credible source) that certain chapters of Banditos are joining forces with the Hells Angels due to the Mongols taking territory...so who's rules are enforced here? Seems like taxation without representation.

Makes you wonder how many MC clubs are extorted and how much deeper these rules go than just colors and crossing paths.

Only way out is by religious means and then there is the CMA to help those out of their "Outlaw Life". I guess we all have holes to fill and try to fill them with something.
Women have the better holes to fill, and boy do I want to be the one to fill all of them.
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I knew as I was writing that you would be the first to try and fill your troll void!
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Who in this thread said they were not aware of, nor troubled by that? In fact, I think that is the very essences of why most of us do not see the value of an official condoned "club". We all have enough authorities which we answer to, so when we want to engage in an activity that allows us a greater sense of freedom (even considering our DMV & TxDOT overlords) why should we subjugate ourselves to yet another arbitrary set of rules? Your analogy of a homeowner's association is flawed. If I choose, I can buy a house in a neighborhood without an HOA and paint the shutters and build a fence and park cars on blocks in the front yard and noone can stop me. If I start an MC with patches and tassles and black & white colors and long flowing hairstyles the first bandito that sees me can rip that off and demand that I pay him respect. that.
For reference, I belong to a loosely organized motorcycle club which originated from a web forum similar to MH. It is, however, nationwide (in fact international) and we get together in PA & CO and WA a couple times a year when we can to hang out and ride. Those who live close to one another ride together whenever they can, and we all have standing couch and rescue vehicles for fellow members. However, in order to avoid offending the sensitivities of local MCs, we have never produced a patch larger than 3" in diameter, and never to be worn on the back. Why would we need that kind of hassle from individuals who have no authority over us that what force allows them?
If you are cool with giving up a small part of your freedom to belong to an MC, thats cool with me. If you think that forcing a set of rules on others just because they didn't ask permission from some committee to form in the first place is OK, thats foolish.
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Would like to point out people are quick to condemn a mc club but there is how who tell you what you can do with your house, pta deciding rules for your children, if any of you belong to country clubs they tell you what to wear, the DMV tells you what you have to have on your car to be legal or how to drive, tour churches have a hierarchy, your employer has a chain of command, postal service tells you what you can and can't mail, so it seems to me you saying you want to be free isn't really a good excuse because even though you want to ride like you feel like or how you want you're still subject to DMV that you have no problem following.

You're controlled by more than you think and have no problem till the word mc is associated. No one is forcing you to join, and having different clubs being regulated by a council is good to keep everyone in check. And yes if there is a member from the banditos on there, maybe its to make sure everyone follows the rules to keep from interfering with them and that's a good thing because I would not want to cross paths with them.

So if all of you want to associate all mc clubs as 1% fine if it helps you sleep at night. Armyape how many people have you shot or how many stores have you vandalized or property trashed because you are in a mc? Lets just ask since all clubs are 1% clubs.
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Would like to point out people are quick to condemn a mc club but there is how who tell you what you can do with your house, pta deciding rules for your children, if any of you belong to country clubs they tell you what to wear, the DMV tells you what you have to have on your car to be legal or how to drive, tour churches have a hierarchy, your employer has a chain of command, postal service tells you what you can and can't mail, so it seems to me you saying you want to be free isn't really a good excuse because even though you want to ride like you feel like or how you want you're still subject to DMV that you have no problem following.

You're controlled by more than you think and have no problem till the word mc is associated. No one is forcing you to join, and having different clubs being regulated by a council is good to keep everyone in check. And yes if there is a member from the banditos on there, maybe its to make sure everyone follows the rules to keep from interfering with them and that's a good thing because I would not want to cross paths with them.

So if all of you want to associate all mc clubs as 1% fine if it helps you sleep at night. Armyape how many people have you shot or how many stores have you vandalized or property trashed because you are in a mc? Lets just ask since all clubs are 1% clubs.
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Thanks to OP for making this thread. I can see were some are againts MCs. I can also see why some are for, different strokes for different folks.

My question to the guys in MC's, an excuse my ignorance on the subject. I'll use myself as an example. I'm usually very busy with work and family, but when I can I ride and find the feeling of a brotherhood type atmosphere of buddies very appealing. Unfortunately for me being very busy, time to put into getting into or hanging around any type of social gathering is difficult. Is not being able to attend meets and not able to devote a lot of time to a club frowned upon? How much effort goes into joining an MC ? I understand its a commitment, but to what degree?
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True but do you buy a home outside a hoa community and then and rag on hoas? I don't think so and if you do you shouldn't.you are not part of one and should not be about it because since you're not in one it doesn't affect you. I get you guys have your own personal feelings or opinions but you're still flaming the thread with personal opinions and not presenting your points in a question like manner to give the op a chance to answer which was the whole point in the first place.

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Who in this thread said they were not aware of, nor troubled by that? In fact, I think that is the very essences of why most of us do not see the value of an official condoned "club". We all have enough authorities which we answer to, so when we want to engage in an activity that allows us a greater sense of freedom (even considering our DMV & TxDOT overlords) why should we subjugate ourselves to yet another arbitrary set of rules? Your analogy of a homeowner's association is flawed. If I choose, I can buy a house in a neighborhood without an HOA and paint the shutters and build a fence and park cars on blocks in the front yard and noone can stop me. If I start an MC with patches and tassles and black & white colors and long flowing hairstyles the first bandito that sees me can rip that off and demand that I pay him respect. that.
For reference, I belong to a loosely organized motorcycle club which originated from a web forum similar to MH. It is, however, nationwide (in fact international) and we get together in PA & CO and WA a couple times a year when we can to hang out and ride. Those who live close to one another ride together whenever they can, and we all have standing couch and rescue vehicles for fellow members. However, in order to avoid offending the sensitivities of local MCs, we have never produced a patch larger than 3" in diameter, and never to be worn on the back. Why would we need that kind of hassle from individuals who have no authority over us that what force allows them?
If you are cool with giving up a small part of your freedom to belong to an MC, thats cool with me. If you think that forcing a set of rules on others just because they didn't ask permission from some committee to form in the first place is OK, thats foolish.
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Thanks to OP for making this thread. I can see were some are againts MCs. I can also see why some are for, different strokes for different folks.

My question to the guys in MC's, an excuse my ignorance on the subject. I'll use myself as an example. I'm usually very busy with work and family, but when I can I ride and find the feeling of a brotherhood type atmosphere of buddies very appealing. Unfortunately for me being very busy, time to put into getting into or hanging around any type of social gathering is difficult. Is not being able to attend meets and not able to devote a lot of time to a club frowned upon? How much effort goes into joining an MC ? I understand its a commitment, but to what degree?
Excellent question. The answer to this question isn't cut and dry the amount of time required really depends on the club you wish to join. Me personally I have no kids and my family lives in another state so my club is my #1 priority I've skipped college classes and taken time off work to attend events meetings, birthdays, kids birthdays, baptisms, funerals, hospital visits, community service and events and of course meeting with other clubs. But just like everything in life you get what you put in. Now that being said it may seem like a lot of work but its actually fun because these are your brothers your family. My club has chapters in nearly every state so when I wanted to visit Miami I hopped on my bike and rode down there met my brothers stayed at the clubhouse and they took me out there's no way to explain the connection other than closer than family. I have a twin brother that lives in San Diego he crashed his bike in the canyon riding alone like an idiot of course his buddys were on duty so he was going to have to wait for them to show up with his truck. Wrong I called my brothers in ocean side they literally left work got in their truck and went to pick someone up that they've never even met why? As a favor to me because that's what family does. That is commitment the harder a club is to get into the more worth it it is. Some clubs have a checklist you need to complete to become full patch some have time limits in which is a test some are just social clubs that you need to meet the minimum requirements to be full patch. But do you really want to be a part of a club just because you ride a litre bike would they pick you up at 4am when you've had too much to drink? Or do you want to be in a club that youve been through some with with brothers that have been there for you and proved loyalty I never question loyalty between members and that's very rare these days.
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