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Old 12-20-2013, 11:36 AM   #1
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Question What to Upgrade from ninja 650r

I'm going to upgrade to a super sport, after riding my ninja 650r for about 2 1/2 years. I've put 25,000 miles on it, and I've come to want something bigger. So I'm having a hard time deciding on which bike to get. There are 3 bikes I have in mind, all 2008's, and with about the same mileage. Coincidentally they are also just about the same price too.
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The obvious choice I think would be to go with the zx6r, but I'm worried there isn't going to be that much of a power difference. I'm not planning on going 160mph, so I'm more looking for the torque. And also pretty much every single person I've talked to recommended me getting the 1000 because I'm not planning on doing any curvy road carving, and the zx6r will bore me with it's unused slimness potential.

The gsxr-750 seems like the perfect bike for me, size wise, but the problem is I don't really like the gsxr brand. I'd rather stick with Kawasaki if I can, but I'm not entirely opposed to switching if it's worth it.

And then there's the fact that I heard the 1000's are hard to control and take too much work to ride. And that you only get to 3rd gear on the highway? I'm only 150lb at 6 feet and I'm just afraid it's going to be too much.

I'm a pretty passive person, and I would never ask one of my friends to ride their bike, so I've never ridden any of these bikes.

Also there is a super sexy 2008 cbr600rr that's cheaper than all of them that I'm kind of considering. Though it has about double the miles at 14,000

So what are your inputs?
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Old 12-20-2013, 11:55 AM   #2
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My first bike was a 650r and i went to a 675 and it is way faster than the 650r.
Dont think that 600ss bikes arnt fast there very fast. U will lose torque in the bottom end though. With the 675 it isnt so bad and as soon as i get to 4k it pulls harder than the 650. The 4 cylinder 600s ive ridden how ever didn't pull as hard as my 675 as low in the rev range. Ive never ridden a liter before but hear there insane
+1 the 750 really fast with some torque
A 675 is a good option if u want a 600 class bike with decent torque
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Old 12-20-2013, 12:02 PM   #3
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Old 12-20-2013, 12:06 PM   #4
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Do not get the 08 ZX6r way to much lack of low end. Top end is great but the low end is miserable!
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Old 12-20-2013, 12:15 PM   #5
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2008 r6 alll the way. But the new 636 is very nice, or get a 09+ zx6r
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Old 12-20-2013, 12:35 PM   #6
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I went from a 650r to the 09 zx6 and trust me, it's a big difference. Then if you add a PC with a custom map and some other mods, then she'll scream.
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Old 12-20-2013, 01:05 PM   #7
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Old 12-20-2013, 01:29 PM   #8
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The obvious choice I think would be to go with the zx6r, but I'm worried there isn't going to be that much of a power difference. I'm not planning on going 160mph, so I'm more looking for the torque. And also pretty much every single person I've talked to recommended me getting the 1000 because I'm not planning on doing any curvy road carving, and the zx6r will bore me with it's unused slimness potential.


So what are your inputs?
Have you looked into the Ninja 1000 or z1000? It sounds like your more of a daily rider and these might be some better options then a supersport, I have owned my Ninja 1000 for 2 years now and you cant beat it for a road bike. its like a supersport more geared toward the street. it only tops out at about 160 but it will keep up with a SS 1000 up to about 120. It has torque FOREVER, I'm never left wanting more. short wheelbase makes it super nimble at low speeds, its more upright and comfortable for long trips much like the 650 (I own one too) and you can still tear up some twisties if you feel brave. its a little on the heavy side (just over 500lbs), but I got used to it and don't have a problem throwing it around anymore it has a tall seat but you being 6ft it wont be a problem. my only complaint about the bike is the winscreen is pretty useless, but an aftermarket one should (hopefully) fix that. also could use a better seat especially for the passenger. but there's plenty of aftermarket for it. there's my 2 cents on. if your really interested we might be able to work out a test ride. Pm me.
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What about something like a Ninja1000 or Z1000.... they have power like the 650r, but it's MORE and EVERYWHERE. No chugging along till mid-rpm, they just GO.

Keep in mind... you can almost always switch the bars around... either to raised clip-ons, or lower bars. On pretty much any bike.

EDIT: Too slow

EDIT EDIT: At 5'7 and ~135lbs.... I was fine on the Ninja 1000 seat height wise and weight. Yes, it felt bigger than the 650r, but not TOO big.
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Old 12-20-2013, 01:38 PM   #10
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What about something like a Ninja1000 or Z1000.... they have power like the 650r, but it's MORE and EVERYWHERE. No chugging along till mid-rpm, they just GO.

Keep in mind... you can almost always switch the bars around... either to raised clip-ons, or lower bars. On pretty much any bike.

EDIT: Too slow
you cant really change the handlebars on the ninja 1000 they designed the gas tank and windscreen to the specific location of the bars so I would think there would be interference issues and they mount kinda silly. I looked a while back for new bars but couldn't find any, I don't know if someone came up with something since.

EDIT: they have risers, but if anything idd go lower, the only other option is get Convertibars and play with it till something works, but those are expensive and I really don't think there's much room for adjustment
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Old 12-20-2013, 02:23 PM   #11
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Old 12-20-2013, 02:28 PM   #12
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Thanks for the responses. I was looking at the z1000 but I really like the ergonomics of the zx bikes. I put lower handle bars on my 650r but that wasn't enough. I could probably put clip-ons on the z1000, but then I'd probably have to get new fairings and lower the brake and shift levers if I'm not mistaken.

It looks like the gsxr-750 is the bike I want the most. The main reason I'm hesitant is my best bud hates them, and he's very convincing. I'll probably go with that or get the 600 and if I want more low end power later on just change the sprockets. I still have a little while before I make the purchase, so I'll go see them in the meantime. Thanks for your help!
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Old 12-20-2013, 02:35 PM   #13
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Old 12-20-2013, 02:56 PM   #14
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Old 12-20-2013, 03:07 PM   #15
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Old 12-20-2013, 03:16 PM   #16
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Old 12-20-2013, 03:35 PM   #17
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Old 12-20-2013, 03:57 PM   #18
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He probably just dislikes gxsrs cuz of the squidly rep they get. I wouldnt let his disliking gsxrs sway ur decision too much.
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Mmm... I love my gsx-r750. Perfect for road use in my opinion. Nimble but packs that extra umph you don't get out of a 600.

Don't care about what others think. I ride it because I like it.
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