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Old 04-17-2007, 09:18 AM   #1
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Race Take-Offs: Is it worth it?

First off, i don't know if I posted this in the correct area, if not, mods, please move it to the correct section....

I post on a variety of other forums (both motorcycle and vehicle) and I have noticed that a lot of folks on the motorcycle forums always recommend race take-offs to someone that is looking for a tire. Am I the only one that thinks that race take-offs for a street bike is a waste of money and time? Race tires are soft as but they are only good for 2-4 track days, after they are spent, then what is the purpose of the tire?

I think the race take-off option was provided as a short term solution to a problem that many riders have, but they don't realize that the tire, for the most part, has lost its grip capability..... I mean, a race tire is meant for a track where they can reach operating temp quicker and can handle it, they are not engineered for everyday use, which should be the tires you should be using anyway...

I have seen race tires being sold for $40 to $100, why not just spend the extra $50 or so and by some tires that are designed for the type of riding you do? If you are going to spend the money on the take-offs and the mounting and then again on another tire and mounting, save yourself the hassle and get a real tire.... I mean the race take-off looks cool when you are posing, but if you are stopped long enough to pose with a tire that really ain't yours, then why ride in the first place?

I don't know... this kinda turned into a rant, but just wanted to know what your opinions are.... I just think the race take-offs is a bad idea for sport riders that are using them for everyday use... what is your opinion?
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...... but when i have problems being able to screw other things i normally tie them up and lube the out of it. dont be afraid do get rough with it. if you cant handle it with the tool you have maybe the task is to hard for you. in which case if could be time for some tag team action and maybe even a foursome...
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Old 04-17-2007, 09:19 AM   #2
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Found an article that kinda agrees with the point I am making (in case my opinion is not specific)....

http://www.canyonchasers.net/shop/generic/tires.php
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...... but when i have problems being able to screw other things i normally tie them up and lube the out of it. dont be afraid do get rough with it. if you cant handle it with the tool you have maybe the task is to hard for you. in which case if could be time for some tag team action and maybe even a foursome...
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Old 04-17-2007, 09:23 AM   #3
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I'd definitely recommend going with a street specific tire over a race tire, take off or not.

However, not every one has the extra funds to be able to buy new rubber.
I used to run race take offs all of the time when I was younger because I couldn't afford anything else.
I'd just keep that fact in the back of my mind when I was riding, especially if I got caught out in the rain.
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Old 04-17-2007, 09:51 AM   #4
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as patrick has stated. it's more like a temporary solution to those without fatter pockets.
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race take offs is all i run on the street. street tires suck grip wise. ive locked up the front tire so many times while testing bikes for the shop or riding with something that has street tires on it, i dont do it on race take offs. so +1 for race take offs. oh and in my opinion i think they make the bike handle better
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I think its a waste. Your basically buying a used tire for nearly the same price as a new one and after you've used up 2-3 sets of take offs, the money from the mounting charges alone will equal the extra cash for the new tires. imho, you're better off getting a new tire so you dont have to worry about things like how tread is left, is it good enough to make this hard stop, go through the rain, etc...
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race take offs is all i run on the street. street tires suck grip wise. ive locked up the front tire so many times while testing bikes for the shop or riding with something that has street tires on it, i dont do it on race take offs. so +1 for race take offs. oh and in my opinion i think they make the bike handle better

maybe it's your riding style that is overpowering the street tires. it's funny that hundreds of thousands of people are really really fast on street tires, but you're not. either you're the greatest rider on the face of the planet (doubtful) or you're not riding properly.
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maybe it's your riding style that is overpowering the street tires. it's funny that hundreds of thousands of people are really really fast on street tires, but you're not. either you're the greatest rider on the face of the planet (doubtful) or you're not riding properly.

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maybe it's your riding style that is overpowering the street tires. it's funny that hundreds of thousands of people are really really fast on street tires, but you're not. either you're the greatest rider on the face of the planet (doubtful) or you're not riding properly.
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ive used race take offs for years. In my case it was cheaper than buying a new front pilot power every week
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Old 04-17-2007, 10:42 AM   #11
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Alot of people dont ride in the rain.....So for them race take offs are a cheap alt. some people just give them away sooooooo free is always good.
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Alot of people dont ride in the rain.....So for them race take offs are a cheap alt. some people just give them away sooooooo free is always good.
in that case its a good deal.
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maybe it's your riding style that is overpowering the street tires. it's funny that hundreds of thousands of people are really really fast on street tires, but you're not. either you're the greatest rider on the face of the planet (doubtful) or you're not riding properly.
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bwaahhahaaaha your funny, well hundreds of thousands can kiss my . go try and run 51s at world on street tires. race take offs are just fine. the only problem is that some jack arent used to em and arent used to how they handle. i have no problem with traction in the dry or the wet the only street tires that ive ever ridden on that where actually worth a are the knew michilins. well we all know that im not the greatest rider on the planet. but if you think your so good why dont you come and show me how to ride properly

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Old 04-17-2007, 01:02 PM   #14
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^ thanks bro. what turn did they make you work?
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^ thanks bro. what turn did they make you work?
CMRA T10, T12 to the rest of us. The high speed one heading to the late braker for the chicane. No wrecks there all day. Had one run off when a guy got bumped. He headed right off the track and to the NASCAR bowl then onto the straight. Crazy stuff! I did see Ty run off after the horse shoe but the way he rides you would think he just wanted to see how the tires worked in the dirt. He never got off the gas.
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hahaha yea thats a fun set of corners through there
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race take offs is all i run on the street. street tires suck grip wise. ive locked up the front tire so many times while testing bikes for the shop or riding with something that has street tires on it, i dont do it on race take offs. so +1 for race take offs. oh and in my opinion i think they make the bike handle better
Can you explain what you mean by that? I guess i am confused....

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bwaahhahaaaha your funny, well hundreds of thousands can kiss my . go try and run 51s at world on street tires. race take offs are just fine. the only problem is that some jack arent used to em and arent used to how they handle. i have no problem with traction in the dry or the wet the only street tires that ive ever ridden on that where actually worth a are the knew michilins. well we all know that im not the greatest rider on the planet. but if you think your so good why dont you come and show me how to ride properly
You are blurring the point I am trying to make... If you get the race take-offs to run on your bike while on the track, there ain't a problem as the take-offs are designed for the track... but guys running track tires on the streets, is what i just don'e understand... i see guys that are new, squids, whatever roll sport bikes with race take-offs that they don't own... they don't know what that tire went through or how many heat cycles the tire is on... when the tire degasses, the tire gets harder and thus loses it ability to grip... If there is anyone that can get a race tire up to speed on the highway, then that guy is a moron as you shouldn't be riding like that on the streets with other people...

I don't think anyone is questioning your ability to ride.... just the use of a tire in a purpose it is not intended for... I for one would not buy a used tire as i do not know anthing about it... I just think a lot of riders are risking their lives for the sake of saving a few dollars...
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:confused2ok. quick. can someone define "a race takeoff" does that mean a used tire or does that mean any track tire like bt002s. cuz thats what i got. and its expensive.
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and whos giving these out for free cuz i want some
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