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Old 12-09-2013, 04:51 PM   #21
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If it were a TRUE street bike event or had different classes I'd be in. I'm not gonna roll against a busa or even a turbo liter bike, it would be pointless. I like to hit the drag strip occasionally. It's fun but I'm not enough of an enthusiast to build a dedicated drag bike.
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You wouldn't even want to see what happens to you against an all motor "true street bike"
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He said you must use the same wheelbase for the whole competition.Would you like to road race a 72" Hayabusa with 2" of ground clearance?
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He said you must use the same wheelbase for the whole competition.Would you like to road race a 72" Hayabusa with 2" of ground clearance?
Good point.
But, a stretched bike will do well in most of the categories other than road racing; top speed, 1/4 mile, even normal road work.

Will the categories be "weighted" as far as points awarded or will each category be worth the same?
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Straight lines are boring...
I would like to make it interesting, with more than just straight lines but that would be a majority of it. It would probably be a points system awarded for each so it would even the field...

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Add a road course, flat track, and a tighter SCCA style course.... it'll be like Top Truck Challenge, but for bikes. Need more variation than just different straight events.

Also put in "the box" from MSF

EDIT: one of the car events is "ultimate streetcar challenge".
This is open for discussion:

The problem will be getting everything done at one track or weekend split between time, cost, location availability? HRP, Houston Mile, TWS (Texas World Speedway), etc?

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I'd be interested.
Will there be a stock wheel base/non stock wheel base class?
This is where points could be awarded for stock wheel base or close to stock. Or they could be deducted based on performance in other categories alone. How that will happen is up for debate?

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If it were a TRUE street bike event or had different classes I'd be in. I'm not gonna roll against a busa or even a turbo liter bike, it would be pointless. I like to hit the drag strip occasionally. It's fun but I'm not enough of an enthusiast to build a dedicated drag bike.
We could either have multiple classes or write the rules so the field is pretty even. BUT....this is based on a STREET style event. I'd like to keep the event similar to what you would encounter on the STREET! A dedicated drag bike or dyno queen will NOT win this event, period! I could be wrong but I just don't see it happening...

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He said you must use the same wheelbase for the whole competition.Would you like to road race a 72" Hayabusa with 2" of ground clearance?
This is how some of the classes would be split. Of course a stock height bike isn't going to dominate the drag strip but a slammed/stretched bike isn't going to win on the street, roadcourse, braking, etc..etc..

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Good point.
But, a stretched bike will do well in most of the categories other than road racing; top speed, 1/4 mile, even normal road work.

Will the categories be "weighted" as far as points awarded or will each category be worth the same?
That's what I have in mind now but it's all open for discussion.

How would people like to see it run?

Personally, I would like to see it so we get enough competition to make it fun for EVERYONE! But it also needs to be a "TRUE STREET" style event, bikes you would/could ride daily. No hired jockeys, etc..more of a run what you brung kind of event just like you would on the street.


Again, still talking about it now and getting quotes on what it would even cost to make it happen and logistics. If enough interest is shown, then I would proceed with insurance quotes and look into sponsors or outside media.
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I would think a bone stock S1000RR would be hard to beat.
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With a bottle. Nothing says you have to spray on the road course.
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I would think a bone stock S1000RR would be hard to beat.
Then said person/bike has never raced my stock 600
What... Sh*t just got real.

But im with hurst for different classes. little bikes have no chance
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I would think a bone stock S1000RR would be hard to beat.
That should be the bar, and it can only go up/down depending on mods/rider..

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Then said person/bike has never raced my stock 600
What... Sh*t just got real.

But im with hurst for different classes. little bikes have no chance
Do you want a MPG category? j/k

What else would you like to see added? Rules? Events?

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400hp checking in. Depending on the day I could do it.
Anything you would add Rob? Would like to make it competitive for more than just Turbo guys because that will scare away others that want to race.


Do we need to make our own http://tx2k.com/ for motorcycles since they don't want bikes to play...
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Not sure man, I eat breath and turbo hayabusas as you know, so I really have a one track mind. I know my personal bike can be rode all day with no issues, and it could even be a contender in the mpg challange, lol!

I think it's a good idea, but I think don't think it would be a good turn out, and would need to many classes and rules to make it fair for everyone.

I think you would have way better luck just calling a group ride for the big cc bikes and go and do some highway bombers, then go find some roads in the middle of nowhere and do some digs.
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You can break it into just a few classes: Middleweight: bikes 600 to 850cc
Superbike: 851 to 1250cc and heavyweight: 1251cc and above.
Add in an "Unlimited" class for highly modified/turbo/NOS bikes.
At the end of the event there's 4 class winners.
The winner of it's respective class with the most points wins overall.
If there's a tie than have a dead heat competition between the 2 bikes.
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You can break it into just a few classes: Middleweight: bikes 600 to 850cc
Superbike: 851 to 1250cc and heavyweight: 1251cc and above.
Add in an "Unlimited" class for highly modified/turbo/NOS bikes.
At the end of the event there's 4 class winners.
The winner of it's respective class with the most points wins overall.
If there's a tie than have a dead heat competition between the 2 bikes.
Would any 600, 750, 1000, etc.. owners be happy with a format like that?

I guess what I'm asking is honestly, if you have a 600cc bike would you come out and race or just rather watch or not race?
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600/750 is the most popular bike size. Hopefully you'd get good participation from that segment.
If not, Do like they do in other forms of motorsports;
If not enough registrants in a class show up, combine it with the next highest class.
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600/750/1000/1300/Unlimited classes sound great to me.


I'm a fan of stock wheelbase in all but the unlimited classes. But IMO, the unlimited class aren't really bonifide street bikes. Again, just IMO.




I am on a 600. I will race.
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