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Old 12-08-2013, 04:37 PM   #1
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how would you navigate this

Hey everybody, newbie rider for about 2 months. Been keeping it to small roads and parking lot drills so far. I've been thinking about this one part of road near my apartment, how would you guys navigate it? There's a 40mph stretch of road that then goes into a long sweeping left handed curve, and lets say at the end of the curve I want to make a right hand turn. Would I brake way before entering the curve and just coast through and then negotiate the right hand turn, would you guys do gentle front braking through the curve and then right turn, or would you say gentle rear braking through the curve then right hand turn. Or is that all wrong and you would straighten the bike up near the end of the curve, brake and right hand turn?

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Take the MSF course, I took mine with MRH
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Old 12-08-2013, 05:04 PM   #3
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Just take it slow and do it repeatedly , always check for dirt, gravel and road conditions.
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Old 12-08-2013, 05:51 PM   #4
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i took the msf course. They went over how to emergency brake during curve - stand it up as quickly and emergency brake with both front and back brakes. Never told us if we should even brake during a curve. My search across the web seems to show that some people use rear brake, others say you can brake with front brake and rear but gently given most traction is now used for lean in the curve. Just trying to figure it out in my head before I go practice in the lots.
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Old 12-08-2013, 06:56 PM   #5
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i took the msf course. They went over how to emergency brake during curve - stand it up as quickly and emergency brake with both front and back brakes. Never told us if we should even brake during a curve. My search across the web seems to show that some people use rear brake, others say you can brake with front brake and rear but gently given most traction is now used for lean in the curve. Just trying to figure it out in my head before I go practice in the lots.
Please do not use the rear break in a curve yet. If you accidently press to hard you going to have a bad time. Best advice for this one curve in my opinion is to just go under the speed limit to where you can flip the bike up faster and just have your turn single on.
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Old 12-08-2013, 07:28 PM   #6
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^^this one. You don't want to use the rear mid turn because it's easy to lock it up and slide out, or worse lock it then let off and then highside.

Without actually seeing the turn, I would brake; turn 1; straighten up & brake; turn 2
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ENGINE BRAKE!!!! Plus a little front brake
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Old 12-08-2013, 08:32 PM   #8
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Just use engine braking through both turns. Try to time it so you don't need any brake applications.

If you do need a little before making the right turn. Do your braking after the first turn when you stand up the bike to go the other direction.

Try not switch from applying gas to braking during a turn. That can upset the suspension and make a fall likely.

Also, What bike to you have and welcome to MH.
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Old 12-08-2013, 09:10 PM   #9
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I would pass the corner and keep driving until i've reached MSRH or TWS (Texas World Speedway) and spend some time on the track!!
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Old 12-08-2013, 10:22 PM   #10
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Depends how much I been drinking. ..
I would enter at about 80, downshifting while using both brakes n a little to much back brake for some sliding fun at the end. Then before stopping while in first gear still on the front brake some, rev, throw clutch, rolling burn out around the corner after looking both ways. Like a Buuaass
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As long as you don't exceed 50% of max braking force and 50% of max lean for you your tires, it doesn't really matter how you negotiate it.

but as a general rule, brake while upright to the speed you need for the left. Before you turn right, stand it more upright, then brake, and then turn right.

A day spent on a small 100 - 150cc dirtbike in the dirt will teach you 1000000x anything we can say here.
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Old 12-09-2013, 09:04 AM   #13
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I don't think any of us has enough info to tell you what you should do. There is a learning curve, keep in mind you're at the bottom of it and you will be ok.
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Just go slower...
Yep. This and use engine braking. You shouldn't be going so fast that you have to really get on the brakes anywhere when you are starting out. Just approach all turns slowly and downshift through the gears to get you slowed down. Little bit of brake and off you go. Mr. P's signature says it best, "Faster and faster, slowly". Just take your time and after a while you will start to feel more comfortable. You should be going slow enough not to have to worry about how to make the turn. If you start to worry, then you are going too fast.
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Old 12-09-2013, 12:42 PM   #15
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thanks for all the tips guys. seems like saddle time is the only way to go.
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thanks for all the tips guys. seems like saddle time is the only way to go.
next time you go out riding just see if somebody will tag along with you. Maybe they can go in front and show you the lines.

Just make sure you tell them you are a noob so they don't fly through the bends.

Also, take it easy. No need to impress anybody on the streets.

Comfort comes with seat time.
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