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Old 12-02-2013, 03:54 PM   #1
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TWS (Texas World Speedway) Suggested Track Times Per Level

What are the suggested track times for L1, L2, and L3? Is it track specific, or school specific? I feel like I am ready to bump up (mentally), but want to make sure I am turning the appropriate lap times before I ask an instructor to be evaluated.
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I ride level 2 most trackdays (sometimes 3). At TWS (Texas World Speedway) I'm running between 02:10.00 - 02:13.00. Got close to breaking in to the 9's this weekend.
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are there specific figures that need to be seen to run certain levels?
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are there specific figures that need to be seen to run certain levels?
level 1 doesnt have a specified time, you can ride whatever pace you want really, just be comfortable with a bike.

leve 2 you need decent lines, and a good pace, and passing is a little more "aggressive" so just be comfortable on the track but its not that crazy from what some people make it sound like

level 3 i would say run about 2:05 or less at TWS (Texas World Speedway), 1:55 or less at msrh. No, its not school specific even though some schools might say their level 3 or level 2 is faster, its BS. its the same people riding just on a different date, with a different org.

Why not just have a instructor follow you anyway? I mean worse case scenario he will just tell you what you need to work on so you know what you need to do to get to the next level. What level are you in 1 or 2? what kinda times are you running if you dont mind me asknig?
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I was in level 1 at TWS (Texas World Speedway) this weekend running in the 2:25 range. I think I could be faster with enough space, but there were alot (it seems) of spastic L1 riders with unpredictable lines, and a bunch of clogging.
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2:25-2:30 is L2 at TWS (Texas World Speedway)
2:10 with good, predictable lines is L3
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exactly what I needed. L2 it is. I hope to see what I can really do with faster riders not clogging up the track
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220-225 or 230 bare minimum for level 2. Just know a few people are running into 205-210 in level 2 not many though

But I think you should be fine, level 2 should be fun..
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I was in level 1 at TWS (Texas World Speedway) this weekend running in the 2:25 range. I think I could be faster with enough space, but there were alot (it seems) of spastic L1 riders with unpredictable lines, and a bunch of clogging.
How many track days have you done? There are also a lot of spastic riders in L2 because they move up waaay to quick. Whats with the rush to move up in levels? I never understood that....be the faster rider in Level 1, get comfortable on your bike with Lvl 1 material first. Ask an instructor to see if your ready to bump up.
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level 1 doesnt have a specified time, you can ride whatever pace you want really, just be comfortable with a bike.

leve 2 you need decent lines, and a good pace, and passing is a little more "aggressive" so just be comfortable on the track but its not that crazy from what some people make it sound like

level 3 i would say run about 2:05 or less at TWS (Texas World Speedway), 1:55 or less at msrh. No, its not school specific even though some schools might say their level 3 or level 2 is faster, its BS. its the same people riding just on a different date, with a different org.

Why not just have a instructor follow you anyway? I mean worse case scenario he will just tell you what you need to work on so you know what you need to do to get to the next level. What level are you in 1 or 2? what kinda times are you running if you dont mind me asknig?
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How many track days have you done? There are also a lot of spastic riders in L2 because they move up waaay to quick. Whats with the rush to move up in levels? I never understood that....be the faster rider in Level 1, get comfortable on your bike with Lvl 1 material first. Ask an instructor to see if your ready to bump up.
That was exactly my intention. My original post inquired about the times needed to hang in Level 2. If I was running consistently within those times (and I am), I would then ask an instructor to follow me a bit and see if they think I am ready. I want to be absolutely certain that my body position is correct, consistency and pace look good, and my lap times are improving.

I agree 100% that staying in each level as long as possible is best, but I felt like the riders around me were so unsafe that I would be better off safety and skill wise bumping up to a less crowded group.

L1 was maxed out (think 50+ riders) for TWS (Texas World Speedway), and it was quite hazardous.
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level 1 doesnt have a specified time, you can ride whatever pace you want really, just be comfortable with a bike.

leve 2 you need decent lines, and a good pace, and passing is a little more "aggressive" so just be comfortable on the track but its not that crazy from what some people make it sound like

level 3 i would say run about 2:05 or less at TWS (Texas World Speedway), 1:55 or less at msrh. No, its not school specific even though some schools might say their level 3 or level 2 is faster, its BS. its the same people riding just on a different date, with a different org.

Why not just have a instructor follow you anyway? I mean worse case scenario he will just tell you what you need to work on so you know what you need to do to get to the next level. What level are you in 1 or 2? what kinda times are you running if you dont mind me asknig?
I agree, and I always asked for a shirt ever opportunity I was given. I am always looking to improve.
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I ride level 2 most trackdays (sometimes 3). At TWS (Texas World Speedway) I'm running between 02:10.00 - 02:13.00. Got close to breaking in to the 9's this weekend.
Agreed, I run the same times at TWS (Texas World Speedway) and I'm a mid pack L2 rider. I think I was a litte faster Saturday or at least it felt like it. There where some fast guys in L2 had to be running sud 2 min. times, and you can still get caught in a conga line in L2. No hurry on moving up, but when I went to L2 I drop 15sec. Good luck.
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level 1 doesnt have a specified time, you can ride whatever pace you want really, just be comfortable with a bike.

leve 2 you need decent lines, and a good pace, and passing is a little more "aggressive" so just be comfortable on the track but its not that crazy from what some people make it sound like

level 3 i would say run about 2:05 or less at TWS (Texas World Speedway), 1:55 or less at msrh. No, its not school specific even though some schools might say their level 3 or level 2 is faster, its BS. its the same people riding just on a different date, with a different org.

Why not just have a instructor follow you anyway? I mean worse case scenario he will just tell you what you need to work on so you know what you need to do to get to the next level. What level are you in 1 or 2? what kinda times are you running if you dont mind me asknig?
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level 1 doesnt have a specified time, you can ride whatever pace you want really, just be comfortable with a bike.

leve 2 you need decent lines, and a good pace, and passing is a little more "aggressive" so just be comfortable on the track but its not that crazy from what some people make it sound like

level 3 i would say run about 2:05 or less at TWS (Texas World Speedway), 1:55 or less at msrh. No, its not school specific even though some schools might say their level 3 or level 2 is faster, its BS. its the same people riding just on a different date, with a different org.

Why not just have a instructor follow you anyway? I mean worse case scenario he will just tell you what you need to work on so you know what you need to do to get to the next level. What level are you in 1 or 2? what kinda times are you running if you dont mind me asknig?
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Lol I told you that Saturday. Running a consistent pace is important, but before moving, you also need to be smooth and predictable, and have decent BP to keep the suspension steady and the best contact patch possible, etc at a faster pace. It's not JUST about times. The best thing to do is be eval'd as early in the day as possible. It's much better to bump up than to be bumped down bc you have basic things to fix before being in a higher level. Sorry I wasn't able to really ride with you Sat. Next time!
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Lol I told you that Saturday. Running a consistent pace is important, but before moving, you also need to be smooth and predictable, and have decent BP
According to this, I should be in the beginner class...
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