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Old 11-22-2013, 02:58 PM   #1
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Okay this just blew my mind: Texas Surcharge

So, i got a ticket once for some BS and no proof of insurance. I obviously had insurance and went to court and i showed it to them and it was dismissed, but i still paid up on the BS.

I just recently got a letter that becuase of some Driver Responsibility Program, from the DPS, that i will have to pay $260 a year for 3 years as a surcharge becuase of the no insurance thing.

okay, I understand the reasoning if i didn't have insurance, but i did. I looked it up and even if i showed them that i had insurance i still had to pay this surcharge.

whats the deal? Can i fight this somehow? SO basically is it gonna cost me $750 for not having my insurance on me, when they no certainly well i had insurance when they pulled me over.
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Old 11-22-2013, 03:04 PM   #2
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Wow, I'm raging and its not even me.

This basically says FFFF U were going to rape you and steal your $$$ because you forgot to put a piece of paper in your wallet.

"No Insurance Conviction

Individuals convicted of No Insurance but who had insurance at the time of the offense can submit proof of insurance to DPS. The suspension for the No Insurance offense will be waived but the individual must still pay the surcharge."

http://www.dps.texas.gov/DriverLicense/drp.htm
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My wife got the same . Her issue was caused by the state which makes it even more frustrating. There's no way to fight it though. Maybe with a lawyer but the cost of that would probably cost more than the surcharge itself.
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Old 11-22-2013, 03:21 PM   #4
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Wow... i had no idea. That IS b.s.

Guess I need to pay more attention. I never gave a whether my card had the most recent exp date because the policy was active, same #, and would work just as well in case of an accident. Especially on the motorcycle where the paper may be in one of 3 jackets. I've got a card in all of them, but not the most recent exp date.
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Old 11-22-2013, 03:25 PM   #5
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Were you "convicted" of no insurance?

....Individuals convicted of No Insurance
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If you don't pay up

"Surcharges must be paid within 30 days or an individual’s driver license will be suspended for failure to comply with the surcharge requirements. The individual’s driving privileges will remain suspended until an installment agreement is established or all surcharges and related costs are paid in full."


Wonder if they are charging all the illegals who are the #1 offenders of driving w/o insurance....

They probably get it waived via this

"DPS offers an Indigency Program that reduces surcharges owed for some individuals with incomes at or below 125 percent of the federal poverty guidelines."
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welcome to adulthood, I have paid that for the past 4 years in order to keep my CDL AMX and keep working.
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So, i got a ticket once for some BS and no proof of insurance. I obviously had insurance and went to court and i showed it to them and it was dismissed, but i still paid up on the BS.

I just recently got a letter that becuase of some Driver Responsibility Program, from the DPS, that i will have to pay $260 a year for 3 years as a surcharge becuase of the no insurance thing.

okay, I understand the reasoning if i didn't have insurance, but i did. I looked it up and even if i showed them that i had insurance i still had to pay this surcharge.

whats the deal? Can i fight this somehow? SO basically is it gonna cost me $750 for not having my insurance on me, when they no certainly well i had insurance when they pulled me over.
nope...i got on this too once.
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NEW LAWS allow you to show insurance coverage via your mobile phone I believe. that is some bs though if you had coverage and didn't just have the card. Do you have an abnormal number of points against your DL?

http://www.texastribune.org/2013/08/...surance-phone/

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and the worst part is the cops won't let you pull it up on your phone
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and the worst part is the cops won't let you pull it up on your phone
X2... Had a cop tell me cell phone wasn't allowed. This was about 3 months ago. Had it dropped once I proved insurance at court... Hope something gets figured out bud.
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welcome to adulthood, I have paid that for the past 4 years in order to keep my CDL AMX and keep working.
He's not talking about paying taxes... he is talking about being fleeced by the State.

Also respond to me in that other thread already (Ghost Riders)

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Edit: This one http://www.motohouston.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=269916
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I do believe that the law requires you to have proof of insurance on you... not just have insurance...if you had been in compliance with the law you would not have been given the ticket and had to go to court to begin with, hence the surcharge.
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I do believe that the law requires you to have proof of insurance on you... not just have insurance...if you had been in compliance with the law you would not have been given the ticket and had to go to court to begin with, hence the surcharge.
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I do believe that the law requires you to have proof of insurance on you... not just have insurance...if you had been in compliance with the law you would not have been given the ticket and had to go to court to begin with, hence the surcharge.
That's asinine and nothing but a money grabbing tactic to increase "revenue".

Should just stop calling them cops and change the name to Revenue Collectors since it's about all they do anymore, protect and serve my .



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Edit: I also like how it says

"who then distributes 99 percent of the money to The Trauma Center and Texas General Revenue Fund. DPS receives the remaining one percent for administration of the Driver Responsibility Program."

Makes you think, well at least the $$$ goes to a good cause...

Would love to follow that money trail, probably pennies on the dollar to the Trauma center and the rest to the General fund to be wasted by politicians on bullshit.

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I do believe that the law requires you to have proof of insurance on you... not just have insurance...if you had been in compliance with the law you would not have been given the ticket and had to go to court to begin with, hence the surcharge.
Exactly how high would it have to go before it becomes unreasonable? $750 over a three year stretch for losing proof that something exists has crossed the line for me already. Especially when all they have to do is run your license plate number to see if your insured. If that isn't a raquet, then what is?
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Exactly how high would it have to go before it becomes unreasonable? $750 over a three year stretch for losing proof that something exists has crossed the line for me already. Especially when all they have to do is run your license plate number to see if your insured. If that isn't a raquet, then what is?
exactly they knew i had it they checked my license.
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