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Old 04-13-2007, 01:26 PM   #21
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I disagree with using the pilot powers. When I had the rear on my bike it slithered all over the place. I could gas it and light the rear tire up on demand. Even the stock bt-056 was gripier than the PP's. Try the Bridgestone BT-014 or Metzler M3's. So far they have given me the best results

uuummmmmm...you also are on a bbuussaa. Way more that a 636.:eh:
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Old 04-13-2007, 01:58 PM   #22
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i moved from 190/50 to 180/55. The 180 is taller and about the same width compared side by side. I prefer the 180 to the 190. I run Qualifiers and once they warm up they are great.
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Old 04-13-2007, 02:08 PM   #23
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One more time, the 180 vs 190 debate.
If you're street riding, and your bike came with a 180, I'd recommend staying with it.
A 190/50 will negatively change the geometry, and because of it's flatter profile, it will slow down your turning. Plus it's heavier so it can negatively impact acelleration.

For track use however, the current trend seems to be moving towards a 190/55 set up, although some of it is subjective to a racers riding style.

If you have the skills to be able to utilize it's improved contact patch over a 190/50 it can help you get on the gas earlier coming out of a corner.

As far as brands, take your pick.
All of the tires that are currently being offered by the major manufacturers are really good, especially for street use.

All have a "characteristic" endemic to the design, but at the end of the day, they all can outperform how most of us ride, especially if you're not searching for the outer limits of traction on the track.

IMO, one of the main questions that you need to answer is; what's higher on your list; mileage or traction?

I'm not saying that it's an either / or decision, but there is a dividing line; you can have great mileage with good traction to 8/10ths riding, or you can have great traction at a "race pace" but with reduced mileage.

To a certain extent you also need to be realistic about your riding style and abilities.

If you're the average motorcyclist that's just street riding, even at a fairly agressive pace, you really can't tell the difference between say a Pilot Road, Pilot Power or Power 2CT, IMO.

The only difference you'll be able to tell is in your wallet when you have to change the tires more frequently if you go with a "track day specific" over a more "general purpose" tire.

I'd beware of some of the advice you may get from riders that proclaim:
"Get this tire! It's the !!"
Especially when all they've ridden on is 1 or 2 different sets of tires.
It's really hard to get an objective opinion from someone that has a very limited range of experience.

As always my 2 cents, YMMV.
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Old 04-13-2007, 05:38 PM   #24
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Well i just picked up the pp 2ct's with the 120/70 and 190/50 so compared to stock (120/65 and 180/55) should i get my height ajusted. Just got my suspension setup at Motorcycles Unlimited earlier this week. + i would rather have better traction than mileage bc i dont have frame sliders yet......:laughing6
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Old 04-13-2007, 06:12 PM   #25
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lean a 180 and a 190 up on a chair or something, walk 10 feet away, and ill give you a cookie if you can actually guess correctly.
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What ever happend to the dunlop dm40z's? When i had my first bike in the early/mid 90's those were the tires to have....Now i am looking for a tire for more of a straightline driving i dont plan on riding my bike hard into and out of a corner....
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Old 04-13-2007, 07:09 PM   #27
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pp 2ct's are nice tires, i don't think changing your profile on the rear would do you any good for street purposes. even racers race with the 180 on a 600 and have no problems. are you sure you actually need that 190? i hope it does you some good, and not just put a bigger hole in the pocket.

just my .02 cents as well.
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come on! get a 240!!!
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Old 04-14-2007, 10:59 AM   #29
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Well looks like someone made a few extra buck off him and will make a few more in the very near(3K miles) future again.

Why ask a question if your mind is already made up?


Out of curiousity where did you end up purchasing the tires from and how much?
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Old 04-14-2007, 11:39 AM   #30
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well reason why is on the street i really dont think it would make a big diff., Plus i dont take it to the track. I got them off the internet for $285 shipped. i think i got a good deal.
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