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Old 04-13-2007, 10:30 AM   #1
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Arrow 180/55 vs. 190/50 vs. 190/55

Cant decide which tires to put on my '06 636. Like the look of the 190 but i heard it does not handle like the 180. let me know what your opinion is. also i am getting the pilot power 2ct. Please help me out.
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How agressive do you ride>?
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well i ride hard when we are going out wednesday nights and also sunday on 149 sometimes. I try to take the corner as fast as possible.
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Old 04-13-2007, 10:34 AM   #4
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Go with the OEM size.
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^but why? will it affect the contoll that much
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Old 04-13-2007, 10:41 AM   #6
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what about a 180-60, anyone make one of those??? more triangular profile???
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never seen one.
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Old 04-13-2007, 10:46 AM   #8
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Cant decide which tires to put on my '06 636. Like the look of the 190 but i heard it does not handle like the 180. let me know what your opinion is. also i am getting the pilot power 2ct. Please help me out.
Wow, buying tires based on look, thats a neat concept.

But seriously, Stick with the stock sizes unless you plan on doing suspension adjustments to compensate. Even 180/55 tires from different manufacturers will carry different diameters, throw a tape around some and you will see. Depending on what rear tires you get, your ride height can be altered a bit. Same with the fronts, the 06 zx6r have a funky 65 front tires, so go with the 70 and adjust forks accordingly.

If you've never touched your suspension settings on the bike or set up f/r sag then you'll probably ever notice the difference. In that case just get whatever looks best.
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I would just get the OEM ones as well, no need to change if your not riding that aggressive and not redoing your Suppension, my .02 cents
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^but why? will it affect the contoll that much
If you go with a taller tire then you'll change the steeing geometry of the bike (possibly increasing or decreasing the trail).

A wider tire than the rim was designed for will stretch the tire and you'll get a smaller contact patch.


But like therky42 said, depends on how agressive you ride. You may not even notice.
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ya just this week i had my suspension ajusted by Motorcycles Unlimited.
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well then what about the pilot power 2ct, does anybody have any input on those?
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well then what about the pilot power 2ct, does anybody have any input on those?
I would go with the regular pp if you aren't doing trackdays. The ct's are pp compounds in the middle with softer edges. You really shouldn't be getting enough lean angle on the street to give the softer edges a good workout. If you do trackdays then the 2cts are better imo.
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I would go with the regular pp if you aren't doing trackdays. The ct's are pp compounds in the middle with softer edges. You really shouldn't be getting enough lean angle on the street to give the softer edges a good workout. If you do trackdays then the 2cts are better imo.
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Listen to Andre3k he is our national track school expert and knows his stuff(well now he does jk) if your not doing track days etc... run a power on the front and a pilot road on the back. You will get 7-8k instead of the 3-4K (if your lucky with a power rear).
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Listen to Andre3k he is our national track school expert and knows his stuff(well now he does jk) if your not doing track days etc... run a power on the front and a pilot road on the back. You will get 7-8k instead of the 3-4K (if your lucky with a power rear).
I'm no expert. I just pay more to pose.
The pilot roads seem pretty nice, I was looking to go to those for my next street tire. I'm looking more for mileage than performance on the street now.
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I'm no expert. I just pay more to pose.
The pilot roads seem pretty nice, I was looking to go to those for my next street tire. I'm looking more for mileage than performance on the street now.
The roads will give you plenty of grip on the road even com[ared to a 2ct. you just can't push like you can on the track to keep enough heat in them.
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I disagree with using the pilot powers. When I had the rear on my bike it slithered all over the place. I could gas it and light the rear tire up on demand. Even the stock bt-056 was gripier than the PP's. Try the Bridgestone BT-014 or Metzler M3's. So far they have given me the best results
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I disagree with using the pilot powers. When I had the rear on my bike it slithered all over the place. I could gas it and light the rear tire up on demand. Even the stock bt-056 was gripier than the PP's. Try the Bridgestone BT-014 or Metzler M3's. So far they have given me the best results
I love this board b/c of the diff views.

I found thte BT014's very difficult to get up to temp thus finding good grip (be it street or track) + short "grippy" life. Never had a set of M3's but did have M1's and they no matter (again just my experience) constantly slid all over the pace (esp at the track) the powers I've run gripped great and you actually had a heads up before the sliding point.

Again my experience which is limited (4rys and 45K miles +6-7 track days) but My. 02
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