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Old 11-05-2013, 04:43 PM   #21
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Old 11-05-2013, 04:54 PM   #22
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how often do you see where it would say. "made with fake steel"
well there are some bikes I hope don't make it to our shores
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how often do you see where it would say. "made with fake steel"
well there are some bikes I hope don't make it to our shores
Um, where does it say that?
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Old 11-05-2013, 06:15 PM   #24
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Um, where does it say that?
Right there

“These new bikes are leaner, yet still have a mean streak – they’re the real deal, made of real steel,” states Mark-Hans Richer, Harley’s Chief Marketing Officer.

Do you think they would say they're the real deal made of fake steel. Obviously did not get my meaning.
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Old 11-05-2013, 06:47 PM   #25
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“These new bikes are leaner, yet still have a mean streak – they’re the real deal, made of real steel,” states Mark-Hans Richer, Harley’s Chief Marketing Officer.

Do you think they would say they're the real deal made of fake steel. Obviously did not get my meaning.
Ahh I see where the problem is, since it was a marketer saying it i naturally blocked it out when my eyes passed over the words. No problemo.
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Time will tell if they're viable alternatives, still a scarey step for H-D corporate office I'll guess. I'd like them better if they were a little more "standard" rather than "cruiser". I wonder if they'll be more expensive than a Moto Guzzi Stone or a
Triumph Bonneville, both of which strike me as 'more urban'.

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Here's more info...
http://street.harley-davidson.com/en_US

I like them, a lot.
The radiator kinda looks huge, which is my only complaint.

If they can get decent HP out of the liquid cooled motor (750 harley be in the same range as an sv650/ninja650 speed wise), and the weight is lower than the sportster... so this thing might actually feel sporty. The weight is what always kept me away from wanting to try building a sportster. I'm curious if they'll phase out the sportster, see which one gets the sales, or keep both to keep the masses happy.

Price is perfect, not really sure how they're marketing them that low.

I like the name Wee-Rod too.

This is a custom one that the Harley designers built... pretty much dead on what I would build...
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Old 11-06-2013, 08:41 AM   #28
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http://www.cycleworld.com/2013/11/04...-at-eicma-2013

54 hp/ 44 lb-ft unofficially
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That engine does look like a mini vrod engine
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U.S. built for the U.S. market, Indian built for the rest of the world.

The company plans to build the Street in Kansas City for U.S. buyers and Bawal, India, for some international markets. Harley manufactures the rest of its bikes in the U.S. and has facilities in India and Brazil that assemble motorcycles from parts made in its U.S. plants.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-1...ght-bikes.html

BUT, the OP's rideapart article updated with this: "Harley tells us the Streets are “made” in Kansas City. A dealer tells us they’re being assembled there from India-sourced parts. We’ll get to the bottom of it.
From what I read this morning (from a different source), looks like Coop has it right... it's only foreign-bound bikes assembled in India, and even that is supposed to be from US parts...

http://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee...cycles-to.html
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Harley-Davidson Inc.’s new Street 750 and Street 500 motorcycles will be made in the United States and India, marking the first time the company will manufacture a complete motorcycle at an overseas facility, CEO Keith Wandell told The Business Journal on Tuesday.

The new bikes — the first Harley-Davidson motorcycles to be designed from scratch in 13 years — will roll into initial test markets in the U.S., India, Spain, Italy and Portugal in the second quarter of 2014, Wandell said Tuesday. The company announced the motorcycles Monday evening.

The Street motorcycles being sold in the U.S. will be manufactured in the Milwaukee-based company’s Kansas City facility, Wandell said. The Street bikes for international riders will be made in the company’s Bawal, India, plant that opened in 2011.

Harley-Davidson (NYSE: HOG) currently assembles motorcycles in India and Brazil to avoid tariffs, but the parts are made in America and shipped as a kit to those countries.
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Made in KC, eh? I smell the end of the Sportster brand which would break my heart. Not that I would mind if they made this the XL series bike here in the US, although the purists would screech about not having four cams like Jeep people would about losing their solid axles.
Seriously, I'd buy a Sportster if this is the next generation, the overweight dogbone frame is what I cannot stand about them now, my 93 was so much lighter than the current generation.
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I don't see them getting rid of the Sportster all together. The 883? Maybe. But the Sportster has always been the "gateway" bike for HD. It would be interesting to see the sales stats from folks upgrading from Sportsters to bigger bikes.
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Not bad for a honda shadow clone
i was thinking the same thing.... wait Honda was first?!?!
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Ok, so just for comparisons...
Harley Street - 54hp/44tq @480lbs wet
Sportster 883 - xxhp/54tq @562lbs wet
Sportster 1200 - xxhp/71tq @584lbs wet
Ninja 650r - 65hp/45tq @450lbs wet
Sv650 - 73hp/47tq @~440lbs wet
Buell XB9 - xxhp/77tq @390 dry

Hopefully the 54/44 numbers come up a bit.

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That engine does look like a mini vrod engine
And the rear fender.
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I thought the 883 made low forties for horsepower. Dropping 82 lbs and adding ten hp more than makes up for the torque loss. Plus the motor is probably in a really relaxed state of tune, I bet it will be very receptive to mods (available in the official accessories catalog).
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Considering their large motors already have underwhelming power, I'm curious what these smaller motors are rated at.
harley and overwhelming power are two words that arent normally in the same sentence. made in mexico, canada, some in japan and india.
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http://thekneeslider.com/buellrod-re...buell-concept/

"The liquid-cooled Harley V-Rod motor, developed by Harley-Davidson then made street legal according to the EPA by Porsche, was originally an Erik Buell project, designed for a fully faired AMA Superbike Buell by 1998.[8] Harley decided the engine should also be used in a sport-cruiser, then took over development, making it "too big, too heavy, too expensive and too late" for Buell."
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I like the one Chevy posted, the factory custom. Definitely what the XR1200 should have been, hopefully they realize the weight is a huge determining factor if they want a genuinely sporty bike.
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