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Old 11-03-2013, 01:40 PM   #1
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So I went down for the first time at the track yesterday. I was coming through the bus stop, a little wider than normal because I was getting lazy and sloppy the last couple of sessions. My legs were getting extra tired for some reason, not sure why. All day my first two laps would feel great, then my thighs would start really burning and I'd start getting sloppy...it finally bit me.

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Old 11-03-2013, 01:47 PM   #2
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Did the rider passing spook u? Came in kinda wide and too much front brake?
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First low side

Bikes looks heavy..

Glad your ok, I usually take a session or two off just to rest in the afternoon.

But I second that maybe you grabbed some front brake as you went wide.
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So I went down for the first time at the track yesterday. I was coming through the bus stop, a little wider than normal because I was getting lazy and sloppy the last couple of sessions. My legs were getting extra tired for some reason, not sure why. All day my first two laps would feel great, then my thighs would start really burning and I'd start getting sloppy...it finally bit me.

Anyway here is the vid.

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It happens. I noticed you were running power 1 tires. Did you use warmers? Cold tires because it happened in the beginning of the second lap?
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It happens. I noticed you were running power 1 tires. Did you use warmers? Cold tires because it happened in the beginning of the second lap?
Yeah I was using warmers all day. I never had either tire feel like it lost traction at all during the day either. I can't really remember if I grabbed the brake but I may have. I know I didn't have a "oh " thought when that guy came by me. It was more of a " if I'm getting passed here I screwed up" LOL
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OP,

Glad you realized you were off the line and admitted what caused you to go down. That is the first step to learning.

As mentioned above, you were off the line and as the rider in the video passed you on the inside you "probably" panicked and yanked the front brake.

Fwiw, the bus stop is a very important turn. You don't want to attack it so aggressive that you run wide because it totally screws up the drive getting onto one of the fastest parts of the track.

Heal up, fix your bike and see you back out there
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hope the 6ft rule was in affect. Glad you're ok and in good spirits. That wouldn't spooked me a little
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another theory: maybe as the guy passed, you gassed it a little to make up for the busted entry and the rear wheel slid out. In the video it looks as if the bike comes around a little right before you go down. If it would have been a front brake tap I would think the momentum would have caused you to go down and maintain your trajectory, not turn in. As already said, wrong line, so the track is slicker on the outside and tire could have spun up much easier with that v-twin torque at low rpms.
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Yeah I was using warmers all day. I never had either tire feel like it lost traction at all during the day either. I can't really remember if I grabbed the brake but I may have. I know I didn't have a "oh " thought when that guy came by me. It was more of a " if I'm getting passed here I screwed up" LOL
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Yeah after rewatching you are in the bus stop... guess everyone is right. Front brake...
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Looks like you released the brake and the front end rose a tiny bit...upset your front suspension and washed your front out. That may be one of the many reasons this happens...just gotta learn from it and get back on.
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Old 11-03-2013, 06:01 PM   #13
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Looks like you released the brake and the front end rose a tiny bit...upset your front suspension and washed your front out. That may be one of the many reasons this happens...just gotta learn from it and get back on.
You know this makes sense. I know I was trail braking in, and that point would have been where I started getting off the brake and on the gas. I knew I didn't grab the brake when I saw the guy passing me. Would more rebound damping have helped at all in this situation or was it just two quick a transisition
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I honestly think it's a little too hard to tell the attitude of the bike before the front end washed out in this video, but I did notice as soon as you hit the different texture of track turning in the front end lost traction.

I was running intermediate group also, there were a large number of off track incidents yesterday, especially in the morning.
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hope the 6ft rule was in affect. Glad you're ok and in good spirits. That wouldn't spooked me a little
Yeah, it was a clean pass I had plenty of space. I wouldn't have passed there because of the possibility of coming together on the next left. I think he got past fast enough that if I wouldn't have went down we wouldn't have been close on the next turn but I dunno. Either way, wasn't his fault I had plenty of room.
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THanks dude, yeah it could been way worse. I already replaced the bolt on my footpeg today, just gotta replace the rear brake lever and I'm ready to go.

I'm just mad at myself for not taking a break that session.


....I still kinda think my wife jinxed me
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You should have been on the brakes. You should think about trail braking. It helps keep the front loaded and a nice fat contact patch. The other big benefit of trail braking is it will help you put the bike where you want it to be on corner entry. Even if it is only 1 or 2%. Next you are in class, pay attention when the instructor brings up trail braking. You should be braking all the way to the apex of the corner. It also seams you are a little abrupt on picking the throttle up. Glad you are okay.

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THanks dude, yeah it could been way worse. I already replaced the bolt on my footpeg today, just gotta replace the rear brake lever and I'm ready to go.

I'm just mad at myself for not taking a break that session.


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