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Old 06-18-2008, 08:59 PM   #81
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I've always heard it was very badtoo, and a really high risk of locking the rear. But I'm just fine with using the clutch to downshift.
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Old 06-18-2008, 09:40 PM   #82
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i ruined an r6 power shifting
it was my first bike and the a hole i bought it from said u dont need the clutch after 2nd gear. upshifting or downshifting
yeah i would just clutch it
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i ruined an r6 power shifting
it was my first bike and the a hole i bought it from said u dont need the clutch after 2nd gear. upshifting or downshifting
yeah i would just clutch it
"power shifting" is done under load. Most people are talking about un-loading the drivetrain while the "clutchless" action is performed.
I don't condone clutchless, but I feel that it's drastically different from "power shifting."
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Old 06-18-2008, 10:08 PM   #85
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I tried it out for the first time tonight. For the first time since I had my bike, after the ride my left hand wasn't cramping up. w00t!
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like everybody else, i upshift without a clutch only when im on the track and only out of 3rd gear, 1st to 2nd i do it with the clutch lever. i mean if you do it like eeeeevery once in awhile, youll be fine. just dont do it everyday. the clutch is there for a reason.
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Old 06-18-2008, 11:20 PM   #87
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buy a speed shifter. simple as that.
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I tried it out for the first time tonight. For the first time since I had my bike, after the ride my left hand wasn't cramping up. w00t!
you can ride dozens of miles in traffic using the clutch for every up and down shift and your clutch hand wont get cramped, just dont hang on so tight.

but I will shift up from 3rd and above sometimes on the street if i'm just cruisin' along or my hand is on my leg by just blipping the throttle and tapping the gear shift up. shifts smooth every time. smoother than with the clutch sometimes!
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I'm gonna give clutchless upshifting another try. I tried this a while back but my bike wouldn't change gears at all unless I pulled the clutch in a least about half way. Anyone else experience this?

Also, is it necessary to have a power commander to use with the dynojet quickshifter? I've got carbs so not sure if I can use the quickshifter if a power commander is needed.
Tried it this morning in the way to work. When I just barely let off it changed over nice and smooth. If I let off the gas completely then it won't change gears. Pretty cool, I'll still use my clutch most of the time but for those special occasions I'll be going clutchless.
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I know everyone likes to think this is a matter of opinion or preference, but its not. Clutchless upshifts, done properly, are absolutely no harder on the transmission than clutched ones. In actuality its EASIER on the transmission because it involves absolutely no clutch wear. When you clutch a gear change you're unlocking the dog rings to allow a gear change. When you roll off the throttle, you're doing the exact same thing. You just have a much smaller window of time that the dog rings are unlocked. Its really that simple.


Powershifting on the other hand is a whole different story. Powershifting definetly wears down the dog rings over time. You're forcibly overridding the locking mechanism. However, it'd take a LOT of powershifts to negatively impact gear engagement.
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Old 06-19-2008, 08:40 AM   #97
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you know what is even easier on your transmission? not shifting at all!!! just don't do it, i mean, who needs to shift anyway?if nobody shifted gears then this thread would not even exist...

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I've done it, but with the relatively inexpensive electronic quickshifters on the market nowadays, why fool with it?

Plus with the quickshifters you never have to roll off the throttle.
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Old 06-19-2008, 04:26 PM   #99
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I never did clutchless upshifting on my F4, but I do it all the time on my R6(2nd-6th). Seems to be doing fine 2600 miles later.
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Old 06-19-2008, 06:54 PM   #100
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I tried it today, felt like would take practice, one time was smooth, and i was impressed, seeing how in a race it could save valuable time, don't see how to downshift it though, wil have to try it.

I'll stick with the clutch for street riding though.
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