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Old 04-10-2007, 01:26 PM   #1
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Interesting Findings on Global Warming

Here are some findings by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC):

Observational evidence from all continents and most oceans shows that many
natural systems are being affected by regional climate changes, particularly
temperature increases.


With regard to changes in snow, ice and frozen ground (including permafrost)4, there is high confidence that
natural systems are affected. Examples are:
• enlargement and increased numbers of glacial lakes [1.3];
• increasing ground instability in permafrost regions, and rock avalanches in mountain regions [1.3];
• changes in some Arctic and Antarctic ecosystems, including those in sea-ice biomes, and also
predators high in the food chain [1.3, 4.4, 15.4].

Based on growing evidence, there is high confidence that the following types of hydrological systems are
being affected around the world
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• increased run-off and earlier spring peak discharge in many glacier- and snow-fed rivers [1.3];
• warming of lakes and rivers in many regions, with effects on thermal structure and water quality
[1.3].

There is very high confidence, based on more evidence from a wider range of species, that recent warming is
strongly affecting terrestrial biological systems
, including such changes as:
• earlier timing of spring events, such as leaf-unfolding, bird migration and egg-laying [1.3];
• poleward and upward shifts in ranges in plant and animal species [1.3, 8.2, 14.2].

Based on satellite observations since the early 1980s, there is high confidence that there has been a trend in
many regions towards earlier ‘greening’ of vegetation in the spring linked to longer thermal growing
seasons due to recent warming. [1.3, 14.2]
There is high confidence, based on substantial new evidence, that observed changes in marine and freshwater
biological systems are associated with rising water temperatures, as well as related changes in ice cover,
salinity, oxygen levels and circulation [1.3]. These include:
• shifts in ranges and changes in algal, plankton and fish abundance in high-latitude oceans [1.3];
• increases in algal and zooplankton abundance in high-latitude and high-altitude lakes [1.3];
• range changes and earlier migrations of fish in rivers [1.3].
The uptake of anthropogenic carbon since 1750 has led to the ocean becoming more acidic with an average
decrease in pH of 0.1 units [IPCC Working Group I Fourth Assessment].

Read the entire report
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Pretty interesting findings...
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Here's an article from the folks over at the Science Mag...

Worse to Come From Global Warming

The U.N.-sponsored Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) report released today in Brussels has a familiar ring. As the climate disasters headlined recently--intense hurricanes, drought in the American West, Arctic thawing--become commonplace in a greenhouse world, plants, animals, and people will suffer. That has been the presumption, but the latest report from the IPCC projecting greenhouse impacts calculates mounting costs that will fall the heaviest on the world's poor.
February's IPCC report on the physical science of climate (ScienceNOW, 2 February) firmly links most of the recent warming of the world to human activity. Scientists authoring the second report had a tougher challenge: figuring out the likely consequences. To do that, they considered 29,000 datasets from 75 studies. Of those data series, 89% showed changes--receding glaciers or earlier blooming, for example--consistent with a response to warming. Because those responses usually occurred where the warming has been greatest, the scientists concluded that it's "very unlikely" the changes were due to natural variability of climate or of the system involved. "For the first time, we concluded anthropogenic warming has had an influence on many physical and biological systems," says Cynthia Rosenzweig of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York City, a coordinating lead author on the report.

The IPCC scientists also projected the effects of future warming. Assuming that nothing's done to slow greenhouse emissions, the February report predicted a temperature increase of roughly 3°C toward the end of the century, drying at lower latitudes, more precipitation at higher latitudes, and rising sea levels. This report finds that such a warming will bleach most coral reefs by mid-century, drying will begin decreasing crop yields at lower latitudes within a few decades, and sea level rise and tropical cyclone intensification will increase the likelihood of millions of people being flooded out each year on river mega-deltas such as that of the Ganges-Brahmaputra in southern Asia.

Bottom line? "You don't want to be poor and living on a river delta or the Florida coast," says climate scientist Stephen Schneider of Stanford University, a coordinating lead author. The poor--especially subsistence farmers--tend to be more vulnerable to climate change, notes the report. And they are least able to adapt, say by building levees against storms or dams for irrigation. Schneider's other advice: "Try not to go over 2°C or 3°C because that triggers the really nasty stuff." With that much warming, the bad effects of this century only get worse, and the rare benefits, such as higher crop yields in wetter areas, fade. To avoid that disaster, see next month's IPCC report on how to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

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So they noticed the tempature rising and made some predictions about the impact. Is it because of greenhouse gases?
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So they noticed the tempature rising and made some predictions about the impact. Is it because of greenhouse gases?
For whatever reason, they left out specifically why they believe t is happening other than by natural causes as well as generally offering that human activities are factored in as well.
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February's IPCC report on the physical science of climate (ScienceNOW, 2 February) firmly links most of the recent warming of the world to human activity.[/URL]

Sounds like they are saying that global warming is mostly caused by human activity. You have to wonder if this is really true or does the IPCC have an agenda.
Often so called scientific findings are agenda driven and the real science is buried under rhetoric.
On the other hand maybe it IS caused by cows, SUVs and refinerys.
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Sounds like they are saying that global warming is mostly caused by human activity. You have to wonder if this is really true or does the IPCC have an agenda.
Often so called scientific findings are agenda driven and the real science is buried under rhetoric.
On the other hand maybe it IS caused by cows, SUVs and refinerys.
Anything is possible but I would put more faith in their findings than most I hear...

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The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) was established in the year 1988 by the World Meteorological Organisation (WMO) and the United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP). It is an intergovernmental body that is open to all member countries of the UNEP and of WMO. Each government has an IPCC focal point that coordinates IPCC related activities in the country. Relevant international, intergovernmental or non-governmental organizations are also participating in the work of the IPCC
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it all boils down to $$$$$$$$$$ the gov is a$$ rapping us daily and we give in.

can we reduce grren house gasses in half? yes but someone would loose money.
cars can run on water,tires can last 200,000 miles....but you dont see that happening......i saw this crazy once had a therory if the worlds population was cut in half all problems would be solved.....we evolved to quickly and are killing ourselves
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it all boils down to $$$$$$$$$$ the gov is a$$ rapping us daily and we give in.

can we reduce grren house gasses in half? yes but someone would loose money.
cars can run on water,tires can last 200,000 miles....but you dont see that happening......i saw this crazy once had a therory if the worlds population was cut in half all problems would be solved.....we evolved to quickly and are killing ourselves
+1 Truest shyt on this thread...it all boils down to money. This is the reason cars nowadays require more maintenance than they did in years prior or why cars today have a shorter lifespan than those in years past...the almighty dollar
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Here is a video (kinda long) with an opposing viewpoint on GW. I'm not saying I agree with everything they are saying, I've just always thought it is better to make your decisions based on all the info possible. I do agree with the fact that it all boils down to $$$ for both sides of the argument.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...+warming&hl=en
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What I want to know ... is where are all the cars the cave men drove that ended that Ice Age million's of years ago?
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i want to know who here has read a geologic book, and understands the nature of science?
it's funny people are so quick to undermine the scientific community on an issue they likely know nothing about, and after all science has done for the world. you don't question how your TV works, how radio waves work, all the intricacies that go beyond this superficial logic displayed with such questions.
reminds me of the scene from The Holy Grail
Sir Bedevere: There are ways of telling whether she is a witch.
Peasant 1: Are there? Oh well, tell us.
Sir Bedevere: Tell me. What do you do with witches?
Peasant 1: Burn them.
Sir Bedevere: And what do you burn, apart from witches?
Peasant 1: More witches.
Peasant 2: Wood.
Sir Bedevere: Good. Now, why do witches burn?
Peasant 3: ...because they're made of... wood?
Sir Bedevere: Good. So how do you tell whether she is made of wood?
Peasant 1: Build a bridge out of her.
Sir Bedevere: But can you not also build bridges out of stone?
Peasant 1: Oh yeah.
Sir Bedevere: Does wood sink in water?
Peasant 1: No, no, it floats!... It floats! Throw her into the pond!
Sir Bedevere: No, no. What else floats in water?
Peasant 1: Bread.
Peasant 2: Apples.
Peasant 3: Very small rocks.
Peasant 1: Cider.
Peasant 2: Gravy.
Peasant 3: Cherries.
Peasant 1: Mud.
Peasant 2: Churches.
Peasant 3: Lead! Lead!
King Arthur: A Duck.
Sir Bedevere: ...Exactly. So, logically...
Peasant 1: If she weighed the same as a duck... she's made of wood.
Sir Bedevere: And therefore...
Peasant 2: ...A witch!
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i want to know who here has read a geologic book, and understands the nature of science?
it's funny people are so quick to undermine the scientific community on an issue they likely know nothing about, and after all science has done for the world. you don't question how your TV works, how radio waves work, all the intricacies that go beyond this superficial logic displayed with such questions.
reminds me of the scene from The Holy Grail
Sir Bedevere: There are ways of telling whether she is a witch.
Peasant 1: Are there? Oh well, tell us.
Sir Bedevere: Tell me. What do you do with witches?
Peasant 1: Burn them.
Sir Bedevere: And what do you burn, apart from witches?
Peasant 1: More witches.
Peasant 2: Wood.
Sir Bedevere: Good. Now, why do witches burn?
Peasant 3: ...because they're made of... wood?
Sir Bedevere: Good. So how do you tell whether she is made of wood?
Peasant 1: Build a bridge out of her.
Sir Bedevere: But can you not also build bridges out of stone?
Peasant 1: Oh yeah.
Sir Bedevere: Does wood sink in water?
Peasant 1: No, no, it floats!... It floats! Throw her into the pond!
Sir Bedevere: No, no. What else floats in water?
Peasant 1: Bread.
Peasant 2: Apples.
Peasant 3: Very small rocks.
Peasant 1: Cider.
Peasant 2: Gravy.
Peasant 3: Cherries.
Peasant 1: Mud.
Peasant 2: Churches.
Peasant 3: Lead! Lead!
King Arthur: A Duck.
Sir Bedevere: ...Exactly. So, logically...
Peasant 1: If she weighed the same as a duck... she's made of wood.
Sir Bedevere: And therefore...
Peasant 2: ...A witch!
LMAO:laughing6 ...funny how true :smh
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"i want to know who here has read a geologic book, and understands the nature of science?
it's funny people are so quick to undermine the scientific community on an issue they likely know nothing about, "

In the early-mid 50's...if I recall correctly Spring recieved 2+ feet of snow. during my childhood I can remember many mornings of frost on the ground... of threats and actual closing of the school due to Ice. As I grew older this happened, less & less frequently... in the last decade, the last couple years have actually produced more cold weather and colder weather than the years previous.
What does it prove...nothing, but make me wondering in regards to 'global warming' as claimed in regards to the impact of humanity vs normal trends/patterns of mother nature.

'Science' also concluded that sacharrin could increase the risk of cancer...it was neglected to mention the doses the test mice/rats were given.
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"i want to know who here has read a geologic book, and understands the nature of science?
it's funny people are so quick to undermine the scientific community on an issue they likely know nothing about, "

In the early-mid 50's...if I recall correctly Spring recieved 2+ feet of snow. during my childhood I can remember many mornings of frost on the ground... of threats and actual closing of the school due to Ice. As I grew older this happened, less & less frequently... in the last decade, the last couple years have actually produced more cold weather and colder weather than the years previous.
What does it prove...nothing, but make me wondering in regards to 'global warming' as claimed in regards to the impact of humanity vs normal trends/patterns of mother nature.

'Science' also concluded that sacharrin could increase the risk of cancer...it was neglected to mention the doses the test mice/rats were given.
Global warming takes a long time. The climate fluctuates due to many things. It's known that CO2 messes the atmosphere up and that we are producing a lot of it. What's argued is how much, but it seems to me like there's generally a concensus in the scientific community that global warming will be, or is being sped up by our unprecedented release of CO2, etc. into the atmosphere.
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It's known that CO2 messes the atmosphere up and that we are producing a lot of it. What's argued is how much, but it seems to me like there's generally a concensus in the scientific community that global warming will be, or is being sped up by our unprecedented release of CO2, etc. into the atmosphere.
There has been some interesting papers by "scientists" that show that while increased CO2 is present during times of increase temperature ... the data seems to show that the increase in temperature actual "leads" the rise in CO2 in the atmosphere. In other words, the increase in global temperature results in an increase in CO2 ... not the other way around.
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i want to know who here has read a geologic book, and understands the nature of science?
it's funny people are so quick to undermine the scientific community on an issue they likely know nothing about, and after all science has done for the world. you don't question how your TV works, how radio waves work, all the intricacies that go beyond this superficial logic displayed with such questions.
reminds me of the scene from The Holy Grail
Sir Bedevere: There are ways of telling whether she is a witch.
Peasant 1: Are there? Oh well, tell us.
Sir Bedevere: Tell me. What do you do with witches?
Peasant 1: Burn them.
Sir Bedevere: And what do you burn, apart from witches?
Peasant 1: More witches.
Peasant 2: Wood.
Sir Bedevere: Good. Now, why do witches burn?
Peasant 3: ...because they're made of... wood?
Sir Bedevere: Good. So how do you tell whether she is made of wood?
Peasant 1: Build a bridge out of her.
Sir Bedevere: But can you not also build bridges out of stone?
Peasant 1: Oh yeah.
Sir Bedevere: Does wood sink in water?
Peasant 1: No, no, it floats!... It floats! Throw her into the pond!
Sir Bedevere: No, no. What else floats in water?
Peasant 1: Bread.
Peasant 2: Apples.
Peasant 3: Very small rocks.
Peasant 1: Cider.
Peasant 2: Gravy.
Peasant 3: Cherries.
Peasant 1: Mud.
Peasant 2: Churches.
Peasant 3: Lead! Lead!
King Arthur: A Duck.
Sir Bedevere: ...Exactly. So, logically...
Peasant 1: If she weighed the same as a duck... she's made of wood.
Sir Bedevere: And therefore...
Peasant 2: ...A witch!
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There has been some interesting papers by "scientists" that show that while increased CO2 is present during times of increase temperature ... the data seems to show that the increase in temperature actual "leads" the rise in CO2 in the atmosphere. In other words, the increase in global temperature results in an increase in CO2 ... not the other way around.
care to cite this scientific article?
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