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Old 10-21-2013, 02:53 PM   #21
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Old 10-21-2013, 03:12 PM   #22
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wow rip

I saw one young lady (with a very nice btw) eat it into the shipping container at awesomes class right in front of me. She did get back up and completed the course.
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Old 10-21-2013, 03:39 PM   #23
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wow rip

I saw one young lady (with a very nice btw) eat it into the shipping container at awesomes class right in front of me. She did get back up and completed the course.
that, when I took the class (not at Awesome Cycles) if you crashed, you left the class right then and there, no refunds. If you dropped it while in motion, that counted as a crash.
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that, when I took the class (not at Awesome Cycles) if you crashed, you left the class right then and there, no refunds. If you dropped it while in motion, that counted as a crash.
Did you miss the part about the very nice ?
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Old 10-21-2013, 03:51 PM   #26
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Awesome Cycles has Ninja 250s also... which I bet could do it. Though I saw riders lock front and wipe out, not endo.
AwesomeCycles had Ninjas when I was there as well, but I was basing the "cruisers" statement off the pic:

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Old 10-21-2013, 04:03 PM   #27
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ah... I didn't look at the pic, just read the copied story.

Awesome had a few people drop the bikes when I was there. None dangering others, only a few light scrapes on themselves. It was part of the learning for those that weren't naturals. Usually at the VERY near stopped portion of the emergency stop or during the figure 8. None were blast away on the throttle into other objects, or run wide at speed types of things.
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Sad story. I wonder if he is going to finish the course.
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Old 10-23-2013, 03:59 PM   #31
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Very sad situation. How fast must one be moving to throw yourself completely over like that when you lock up the front?
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I'm glad this came back up because I was thinking about it earlier today. I took the MSF twice, about eight years apart, the last time in 2002, and in both classes we were taught how to avoid locking our brakes, then we were told to run up to about 25mph and lock both front and rear brakes (separately, not at the same time) so we could learn how to handle it when we mistakenly did it anyway. When my wife took the course for the first time about six years ago, she said they didn't learn that. They also no longer teach you how to ride over an obstacle in the road (a 4x4 in the classes I took) nor how to hop up on a curb. Why do they not teach this stuff anymore? Seems like it would've been helpful in this case. Fwiw the Rebel 250 and TW200 I had in my classes would not do a stoppie without a TON of body English.
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Old 10-23-2013, 05:16 PM   #33
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I'm glad this came back up because I was thinking about it earlier today. I took the MSF twice, about eight years apart, the last time in 2002, and in both classes we were taught how to avoid locking our brakes, then we were told to run up to about 25mph and lock both front and rear brakes (separately, not at the same time) so we could learn how to handle it when we mistakenly did it anyway. When my wife took the course for the first time about six years ago, she said they didn't learn that. They also no longer teach you how to ride over an obstacle in the road (a 4x4 in the classes I took) nor how to hop up on a curb. Why do they not teach this stuff anymore? Seems like it would've been helpful in this case. Fwiw the Rebel 250 and TW200 I had in my classes would not do a stoppie without a TON of body English.
I took my class a little over a year ago, and they did not teach us to lock our brakes up. They taught us how to do emergency breaking and how to swerve but not to actually lock them. Also they put a few pieces of boards down and taught us how to go over them. So it depends on where you go.

As for the death in this case, seeing as the bikes they where riding were cruiser how fast would she had to have been going to flip the bike?
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Old 10-24-2013, 01:25 PM   #35
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Awesome taught to lock up rear and have aggressive braking with front... but not to lock it. They actually said don't lock rear, but "when it does, don't let off till the bike is stopped" Cause when it catches, it'll snap sideways.

They taught us to run over 2x6's.


I wonder if it actually endoed or just flopped to the side and threw her forward... maybe we're being too "technical" with the description here.
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Well... The brakes on the 250 I used for my MSF barely stopped the bike... Let alone be able to indo the bike...

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Geez, what a fluke. If it's your time to go, it's your time to go.

I hate to say this but maybe she should have been dropped from the course early? We all knew those people in the course who had absolutely no business being on a motorcycle. At my course they said, "if you are a danger to yourself, then we will drop you from the course".

I remember when I took my course in Virginia years ago there was this morbidly obese woman who dropped her bike like 10 times. She had 3 spills where she went down HARD by revving the engine to red line and then dumping the clutch. They ended up dropping her FINALLY after one too many incidents.

Maybe this should have been the case here?
What's the old saying about when you "assume"?

If everyone read the follow-up report on the incident, we'd all find that she had an un-diagnosed heart condition that caused her death...."Eric said the medical examiner's office told him his wife had no bruises, broken bones or other injuries."....She just happen to be on a bike when it all happened.

http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.s...dge_woman.html
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Well ain't that something?
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So sad. I credit my brother possibly saving my life. At 19, I was all set to buy my first motorcycle, a yamaha SECA 400 street bike. He talked me into a 200cc dual sport instead. We both bought one an learned skills in the dirt where the lessons weren't as painful.
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RIP Rider ... when it is time its time .. at least she went out doing something was looking forward too. Being on two wheels having a good ole time trying to ride is not a bad way to go. Condolences to the family and I hope the husband still gets his license and takes that trip in her memory.
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