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Old 04-09-2007, 11:20 AM   #1
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What kind of riders school send's known beginners out on the track when
sleet is pilling up on the vehicles in the pit's?
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Old 04-09-2007, 11:21 AM   #2
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I guess riding is sleet is a of a lesson.
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Old 04-09-2007, 11:23 AM   #5
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its a lesson allright. that lesson being that it sucks to ride in sleet.
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Old 04-09-2007, 11:24 AM   #6
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im guessing this post is in response to Ride Smart choice to keep the trackday going after the bad weather.
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Old 04-09-2007, 11:27 AM   #8
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no comment. if you hit the track pipe, you did it on your own free will. I would've packed up and went home. wet conditions will make you smoother
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Old 04-09-2007, 11:33 AM   #9
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I would have still been out there. just like at the bbq i don't give a **** about the wet. let me back out there.
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You are free to ride or not ride. They kept it open because some people still wanted to ride, and they paid their money just like everyone else.
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interesting thread.

of course its everyone's choice to ride or not, in any situation, just like its their desicion what pace to ride.

that being said, lets remember the OP said this was a newbie, was the newbie TOLD to go ride? or told he could if he felt comfortable doing it? etc. more details please.
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interesting thread.

of course its everyone's choice to ride or not, in any situation, just like its their desicion what pace to ride.

that being said, lets remember the OP said this was a newbie, was the newbie TOLD to go ride? or told he could if he felt comfortable doing it? etc. more details please.
im thinking the trackday was business as usual and no refunds where being offered. so either ride or go home.
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wow. that seems kind of harsh. i can see why you couldnt dish out refunds with all that would go into setting up the day...

itd be nice if you could at least get a nice discount of your next trackday if one that you paid for got rained out.
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wow. that seems kind of harsh. i can see why you couldnt dish out refunds with all that would go into setting up the day...

itd be nice if you could at least get a nice discount of your next trackday if one that you paid for got rained out.
not sure this didnt happen but something similar when it rains usually occurs.

LMS and Buck offered credit to ride the bext day at MSR-H when it rained, but the MSR-H track wasnt being used so it was ok.

the trackday organization can only do so much but the track people have final say. if they see people riding, they assume its ok.
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Old 04-09-2007, 12:12 PM   #15
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I'm glad I didn't make it out to this track day. I haven't heard of any discounts or rain checks being offered.
It seems like if sleet is collecting on cars at the track its time to offer a little something to your customers. What constitutes bad enough weather to call the day?
It also seems like the track day organizers should have some agreement with the track management in the case of bad weather, so they can offer some kinda relief.
I bet as the new tracks in the area come online there will be more customer oriented decisions made. (maybe prices will come down a little too- he says hopefully)
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Old 04-09-2007, 12:36 PM   #16
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They still have to pay for he track rental regardless, hence the no refund policy.
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In my opinion

I've done one Ridesmart Track Day and I have to say that I will never do one again -- at least not in the beginner's group. At TWS (Texas World Speedway), they have way too many people on the track and not enough control of the group. Rather than focus on my riding skills I was having to worry about the skills of others because guys were crashing into each other left and right -- not just running off the track. I never felt that way with LSTD.

I'd like to know more details as well. But I'd have to say based upon my experience it was madness when the track was dry. I'd hate to see it when the track was wet and overcrowded.
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They still have to pay for he track rental regardless, hence the no refund policy.


Seems to me that months ago when the contract for the rental of the track was negotiated that the track day organizers (Ride smart) could have gotten some concession that if they (Ride smart) decide that there is some reason they need to cancel the track day that they could offer another day in exchange.
I realize the track has other commitments than motorcycle trackdays but even if the replacement day was during the week at least you have a "chance" to get your moneys worth.
To my understanding these folks were told that there would be no refunds...
Ride or go home is not and acceptable answer when you have taken peoples money and not given the services paid for.
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Old 04-09-2007, 01:35 PM   #20
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In everything else when you don't get the service you paid for you get some type of compensation for it. For example I play outdoor soccer if a game gets rained out there is a make up day for it. They intentionally leave a number of Sundays where they don't have games scheduled so they can have makeup days. I don't see why they don't do this with the track.
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