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Old 04-08-2007, 10:46 PM   #1
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Whats the point of a power commander?

I was told by a board member that you can have your stock computer tuned rather than buyin a power commander. If thats the case....why buy a PC? why do so many people have them when they could have just had their stock box tuned for around the same price?

I understand if you plan on doing alot of engine changes and want it tuned at home between each change, but if all you have is air filter and a can (like me) then why buy a power commander?

anyone?
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I was told by a board member that you can have your stock computer tuned rather than buyin a power commander. If thats the case....why buy a PC? why do so many people have them when they could have just had their stock box tuned for around the same price?

I understand if you plan on doing alot of engine changes and want it tuned at home between each change, but if all you have is air filter and a can (like me) then why buy a power commander?

anyone?
I actually bought one of those and put it in that '84 Kawasaki LTD 1100 before I sold it. I was having tons of carburator trouble with that bike. It kept idling really erratically. Took the carburators off. Had them cleaned. Refitted with new gaskets and o-rings. Rejetted. It never came away with the erratic idling.

Installed the power commander. Idled great! Now, I didn't notice a performance improvement. I never had the bike put on a dynometer so I can't say if it increased performance (which is what the commander's 'supposed' effects are) but I can definitely say it helped the bike run smoother. I wouldn't plunk another $400 on a commander again. I'll just take it to the mechanic and let them figure it out. That's the ill effects of being an amateur trying to juke up your bike.
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Old 04-08-2007, 11:03 PM   #3
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did I misread that or did you say you put a PC on a carb'd bike?

PC's are for adjusting fuel injection. They do it by altering the sensor input to your ecu. This is sometimes hard on the ecu causing it to fail. Suzuki is the only MFG that currently makes their technology available to the aftermarket so that fuel mappers can take the place of PC's.
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did I misread that or did you say you put a PC on a carb'd bike?

PC's are for adjusting fuel injection. They do it by altering the sensor input to your ecu. This is sometimes hard on the ecu causing it to fail. Suzuki is the only MFG that currently makes their technology available to the aftermarket so that fuel mappers can take the place of PC's.
Isn't he supposed to put a Jet Kit. :confused1
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did I misread that or did you say you put a PC on a carb'd bike?

PC's are for adjusting fuel injection. They do it by altering the sensor input to your ecu. This is sometimes hard on the ecu causing it to fail. Suzuki is the only MFG that currently makes their technology available to the aftermarket so that fuel mappers can take the place of PC's.
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He's a new guy, and trying to help/ in alot of thread.

Needs to read before he posts..
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TEH BEZT COMBO IS LIEK A NINJER 250 WIT A ZX-14 MAP!!!!1!!1!!ONE!1`~

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WHENZ YOU LIKE GOT IT TO WHERE YOU LET OFF TEH THROTTLE AN YA HEAR IT LEIK PA-PA-PA-POWWWW!!! THAT SHIZ IZ DA BEST!!!!!!!! AN THE FLAMES BE SHOOTIN OUT! DATS WHAT IM TALKIN ABOUT!!!!!!!!

SAY! ANYBODIEZ KNOW A SHOP WHERE I CAN GET MY POWERCOMMANDER CHROME DIPPED??????
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dun be a hater. yur jus jealous of my FZR1000.
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but hey on the realz for a minute. have any of yall seen/got/used one of the new LCD displays for the PC's? their lookin pimp, im just waiting for a baller customer to buy one and have our shop put it one so i can check it out.
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Actually, it's not the power commander. That's my mistake. I'm trying to remember exactly what it was called. I purchased it from denniskirk.com or competition accessories. I'll be surfing their sites right now to get exactly what it was called. It's power something and blue and I just immediately thunk of it when power commander was mentioned in this thread. Honest error on my part. It basically adjusted the timing of the spark it was putting out. A power curve, if you will.

Disregard my post since it has nothing to do with the Power Commander.

Black Widow, I realize that you're a moderator but you're an arrogant . No reason for that. I'm definitely a newbie to this site and want to make a useful contribution. At least I don't post insignificant one-liners like you. Nononono, I mean just posting a smiley. No words at all. Nothing! I made a honest mistake. That being said, want to make peace and let me be a productive member of this board? I wasn't butting in nothing. Moderators are supposed to welcome people.

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Old 04-09-2007, 12:15 AM   #13
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He's not a moderator but just some idiot who has his name in green because he was associated with some sponsor. Don't let his post shy you away from the great board that you have stumbled upon.

Black Widow is actually a great guy.... just a at times..
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everybody makes mistakes in posting. people just try to be funny about it.

don't mind the "green" moderators. we only moderate our sponsored sections. in every other section, we are just like you my friend.

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power commander huh, SEEMS like a waste of money to me.. tcmatt here off the board got one installed along with full yoshi at Motorcycles Unlimited and my little beat up f4i took him from a 60 roll all the way to top end, and kept putting lengths on him from there. not bragging here as i dont have the bike anymore but you can judge for yourself
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i think this guy is talking about Dyno Jet Jet Kits. Not Dyno Jet PC.

They both have a lot to offer when installed and tuned properly.
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This is what I was thinking of.

http://www.dynaonline.com/english/sp...e_dyna2000.htm

Obviously very different from the Power Commander. Once again, disregard my initial post.
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Agreed but every little bit helps! It's a matter of trying to decide where to put that extra horsepower. See, it's so easy to put on gobs of extra horsepower. Then once you top out. Every last drop of that extra horsepower costs so much more. Would the Power Commander be worth that extra horsepower? Sure! If you've got the money!

I guess it just depends on how much the shop wants to charge to tune your computer verses a Power Commander. Logic tells me to take it to the shop.
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Agreed but every little bit helps! It's a matter of trying to decide where to put that extra horsepower. See, it's so easy to put on gobs of extra horsepower. Then once you top out. Every last drop of that extra horsepower costs so much more. Would the Power Commander be worth that extra horsepower? Sure! If you've got the money!

I guess it just depends on how much the shop wants to charge to tune your computer verses a Power Commander. Logic tells me to take it to the shop.
this is what I hear from the car crews all the time "I need more hp, I need more torque"...but it really boils down to how you handle it. I drive a bone stock 1990 honda da, yet i've beat plenty of people in little stoplight races because they dont know how to handle their ride.
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