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Old 10-08-2013, 09:19 AM   #21
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What the are you talking about? A stupid decision to push through a group of bikers and then provoke them with his wife and child in the car is a dumb range rover driver.
lol, wut? I'm sorry, but what lead you to this assumption?

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What the are you talking about? A stupid decision to push through a group of bikers and then provoke them with his wife and child in the car is a dumb range rover driver. And a dumbass biker that thinks he's defending his fellow biker that clearly took it way to far is another dumbass. When something like thise happens its usually not just one bad decision or mistake but multiple. Its not as simple as a bad biker with a rap sheet or a driver demanding his share of the road. There was a lot that led up to that. Big group ride is one mistake. They are always dangerous. No organization in the ride is also dangerous for everyone not just those involved. People like the prius and the rr driver. They don't know how to act when someone completly disregards the law. Then the mistake that was the catalyst for the spike helmeted rider was the suv attempting to drive through the group then when blocked hits a rider. That sent the rider into rage that was peobably fueled by the site of the suv bouncing off bikes as he commited a hit and run. So in closing. They all are dumb . Dont lump all stunt riders together because of a few squids on a highway in new york. Thay kinda mind set is just as bad as saying all whites are dumb rednecks with mullets because you have seen a lot lately. Sorry for grammar and spelling. I'm on my phone. And that post just set me off a little.

Wow seriously!! Thats like saying if someone breaks into my home i should sit there and let them do what they want.

But thats also saying that the rr was trying to push through the bikers which i doubt because the bikers would never have moved. Plus the video would have started there. And dont feed me any bs that nobody recorded the rr doing something prior if he did. That would be plastered everywhere.

And i dont consider them stunters. Not sure why the stunters keep defending then. They are an mc doing stupid , they do a half wheelie and keep riding.



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What the are you talking about? A stupid decision to push through a group of bikers and then provoke them with his wife and child in the car is a dumb range rover driver. And a dumbass biker that thinks he's defending his fellow biker that clearly took it way to far is another dumbass. When something like thise happens its usually not just one bad decision or mistake but multiple. Its not as simple as a bad biker with a rap sheet or a driver demanding his share of the road. There was a lot that led up to that. Big group ride is one mistake. They are always dangerous. No organization in the ride is also dangerous for everyone not just those involved. People like the prius and the rr driver. They don't know how to act when someone completly disregards the law. Then the mistake that was the catalyst for the spike helmeted rider was the suv attempting to drive through the group then when blocked hits a rider. That sent the rider into rage that was peobably fueled by the site of the suv bouncing off bikes as he commited a hit and run. So in closing. They all are dumb . Dont lump all stunt riders together because of a few squids on a highway in new york. Thay kinda mind set is just as bad as saying all whites are dumb rednecks with mullets because you have seen a lot lately. Sorry for grammar and spelling. I'm on my phone. And that post just set me off a little.
Holy i am going to print this and my post to show my buds that arent on forums the mentality that these people employ.

Now i know that to become one of you "stuntas", i need to do follow these steps:

step 1.Cut open head

Step 2.Remove brain

Step 3. Fill the void with feces

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THERE! I am ready to begin posting on forums in regards to this matter.
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lol, strong logic.
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I was in one of the stunter forums and they are all using this argument, thats why he is spewing this . Its pretty much the universal stance they al have taken.
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Most of the responsible people I've seen do stunts either:

A: waited until they had clear roads so they don't endanger other riders or motorists

B: find a large, empty parking lot so they don't endanger other riders or motorists

I'm sure there are some occasional occurrences where these don't happen but to try and push an SUV out of the way so you can pull a 6" wheelie is just stupid.
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Based on what I've read and seen, the charged NY bikers don't have a prayer in court, despite the feeble attempts to save themselves both in and outside of the courtroom. They'll be doing hard time.
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I came to that assumption because why else would the rider be trying to get the rr out of the group of bikes? Cause its dangerous! thought that would have been obvious.
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Clearly eltejano can't read. Riding in a group doing wheelies is dangerous and dumb. I said multiple times already doing it in traffic is even worse. people read what they want. Not what was written.
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I came to that assumption because why else would the rider be trying to get the rr out of the group of bikes? Cause its dangerous! thought that would have been obvious.
In the video all you can see is the bikers surrounding the RR and driving around him in what are otherwise pretty open roads. Others are volunatarily pulling up to him from behind as he drives straight in his lane. I find it really hard to believe that the video wouldn't have started earlier to show him pushing into the crowd if that's what really happened. Sure, it's possible, but it doesn't seem too likely at this point. And I don't think any of the bikers that have made statements so far have even tried claiming that anything like that happened.
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Even if he was being passed. If it was my family I would have slowed down and let them all go. Like I said multiple errors of judgment. I'm not defending the bikers at all. Idk if the rr did just run over someone yoy don't pull them out the car and beet them up.
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So he should have brake checked all the bikers
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Lol. No. Why the would you brake check them? Just let off the pedal on the right and let the pack go by.
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What the are you talking about? A stupid decision to push through a group of bikers and then provoke them with his wife and child in the car is a dumb range rover driver.
Push through? What? You mean, like try to get where he's going when the road is completely dominated all three lanes by a bike group? THAT kind of push through? The audacity of someone to think they can drive on a roadway...

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When something like thise happens its usually not just one bad decision or mistake but multiple.
Multiple mistakes alright. Mistake to dominate the whole roadway. Mistake to try to force a Range Rover to get off of the highway. Mistake to brake check the Range Rover. Mistake to stop the Range Rover on the highway proper. Mistake to beat on the Range Rover and alarm the occupants. Mistake to walk in front of that Range Rover. Mistake to chase it down, and a mistake to kick the everliving out of the driver. That about covers the mistakes.

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They don't know how to act when someone completly disregards the law.
That's the point of traffic law in the first place. To provide traffic predictibility. EVERYONE EVERYWHERE will be unable to know how to act when someone completely disregards the law. This comment in itself is the perfect example of the ridiculous mindset that these bikers have, that causes this issue in the first place. Congrats! You have single-handedly proven the point - of your worst enemies.


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Then the mistake that was the catalyst for the spike helmeted rider was the suv attempting to drive through the group then when blocked hits a rider. That sent the rider into rage that was peobably fueled by the site of the suv bouncing off bikes as he commited a hit and run.
Ummm, it wasn't a hit and run in the classic sense, because it was no accident - he rammed through on purpose, and he was under no obligation to stop when that happened. It was defensive use of his vehicle, as a deadly weapon, and it was justified. It could definitely be shown that he was in fear of his life. At that point, all bets are off.

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Dont lump all stunt riders together because of a few squids on a highway in new york.
No, I lump all of YOU together because you're all saying stupid like this above.
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Why didn't the "pack" just maintain speed and pass the RR? Why didn't the pack of riders just occupy the "presumed" clear road behind the RR to do stunts and such?
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Originally Posted by klassik
Then the mistake that was the catalyst for the spike helmeted rider was the suv attempting to drive through the group then when blocked hits a rider. That sent the rider into rage that was peobably fueled by the site of the suv bouncing off bikes as he commited a hit and run.


The driver of the RR did stop after the initial contact with Cruz so it's wasn't a hit and run. He fled when he became surrounded by a large group of agitated bikers and became fearful for his and his family's safety.
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