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Old 10-07-2013, 06:50 AM   #21
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the profit margin is on the tire, not on the labor. so when someone comes in with a tire they bought off the net and think they can get it mounted cheap, the shop really loses money.
Do you know how quick and easy it is for a shop to mount and balance a tire???

It's cake and easy money. Nobody looses any money.. Unless you up a rim, deny up said rim and then have to have it sent out for powdercoating to keep the customer happy after the fact. I've never done that but THAT circumstance will lose the shop some money.


But your statement of "the shop really loses money" is completely incorrect unless your tire guys are morons up customers tires. Then there's a money loss.
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Do you know how quick and easy it is for a shop to mount and balance a tire???

It's cake and easy money. Nobody looses any money.. Unless you up a rim, deny up said rim and then have to have it sent out for powdercoating to keep the customer happy after the fact. I've never done that but THAT circumstance will lose the shop some money.


But your statement of "the shop really loses money" is completely incorrect unless your tire guys are morons up customers tires. Then there's a money loss.
his shop has him brainwashed.....
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Old 10-07-2013, 09:53 AM   #23
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discount tires as in the car place???
Discount Motorcycle Tires on the corner of Shaver and Spencer HWY.
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OK, lets take into consideration the way certain shops run as you mentioned. There are still many shops out there that can mount a tire and not "lose money". Can't really say, as a general statement, that shops lose money on mounting tires. I guess that's my main point.
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Old 10-07-2013, 11:01 AM   #25
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Discount MC tire and On the Border is one in the same.
And for clarification, the tire pressure wasnt the big issue. It was them basically telling me to get that lost them my business
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Bring your bike to a trackday and have one of the on site vendors do it for $20 - $30 for a set of two, mounted and balanced. And guaranteed someone will have stands you can borrow.

I changed 3 sets of tires this weekend. Takes about 10 minutes including removing and reinstalling safety wire. We had John Hutchinson swap them out, takes him about 10 minutes also. We swapped DOT's for slicks between race 6 and 11 with time for a suspension set up and lunch in the meantime.

It's just not that hard to do when you are in the habit. But if you are gonna get all butthurt (this is me with new stuff, LOL) about a little scratch here or there, take it to a shop that specializes in not making you butthurt and just spends your money in exchange.
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Old 10-07-2013, 12:35 PM   #27
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depends on how you define "losing money". the average person considers losing money as it costing you, money out of pocket/drawer to perform an action.

A business defines losing money as "potential earnings lost". If you're doing a tire job for say $30 that takes 30 minutes instead of doing a regular service job that takes an minimum 1hour shop rate (~$80-$90) for the same amount of time then effectively you're "losing" $50. Hope that makes sense.

Or reworded, your tech just spent 30mins to bring $30 into the shop. Whereas he could have otherwise spent 30mins and charged a min shop rate of 1 hour ($80) instead. But he was tied up dealing with a tire change. (and who on earth is gonna be ok with $80 to change a tire? That's why they need to get the margin on the tire as well or else its considered a money losing job.)
On the other side of the token, "any business is good business" can apply here. I do see your point here but if it were my shop, I wouldn't turn down tire business because I wouldn't look at this situation as potential earnings lost. I see it as taking care of a customer's needs who then would have a higher chance of coming back and spending more money on other items. I think that would at least balance itself out. From my experience in a motorcycle shop, that's normally the case. Not a big money maker but return customers are what keep bringing in money. Profits in the long run can easily overcome a fraction of your customers coming in with their own tires for you to mount up. Turning away business because "it's not worth the time vs. cost" may not be the best approach IMO.

I'll use the term instant gratification here. Can't always make the big margins on EVERY sale and in the grand scheme of things, it's a small hurdle to overcome. Lot's of ways to view this arguement, anyways. That's just my take on it with past experiences.
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Well I found out yesterday 2 wheel toys can't mount HD wheels so it looks like I'll be going to discount tire/ on the border.

2 wheel toys actually recommended me there for HD tire installs.
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What brand of tire are you looking for? I'll be happy to give you a Motohouston price for a Harley tire. I can usually order a tire and receive it the following day.
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