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Old 10-01-2013, 12:25 AM   #1
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Collecting gear. Opinions please!

Hey MH guys how's it goin. Looking to take the MSF basic and get my first bike early next year but will start collecting gear in the meantime. Did a search and couldn't come up with anything consequential so I'm asking for opinions now. First thing on my list is boots. That being looking for opinions on leather vs synthetic. Steel toe vs not. Lace vs clip vs velcro. All help is greatly appreciated! Also I plan on bringing all my gear questions back to this thread so if it pops to the top of the list I need hemlp again lol. Thanks!
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Old 10-01-2013, 01:33 AM   #2
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Sidi Cobra's are a good street boot that wont break the bank.
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Those are really awesome looking. A little more than I was expecting price wise, but hey, if its gonna protect my may as well spend the cash right?
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I would def suggest over the ankle hoots, brands, you wipp find too many, my personal problem is the fit. I'd suggest a leather jacket, may run you up high but they do help, and never under estimate the helmet, invest on a good one, will help out, in ways other than a crash. Good luck out there bud.
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Do Not cut corners with gear because of cost. The return in the event of a crash is well worth savings in pain and medical bills
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As some have pointed out, don't cut corners because of cost, but bear in mind also, some brands are more focused on function than style, and their pricing reflects that. Some of the more boring looking gear is actually very good and some of the really stylish stuff is not worth the price.
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Old 10-01-2013, 01:16 PM   #7
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My opinion on boots is this:

I shop for a good brand (NOT the most expensive). I ride with Teknics. AGV makes good gear without paying Sidi prices, too. I ride with tall boots. Ankle protection is important to me. I also only shop for boots with some sort of range of motion restriction (keeps ankle form bending backwards and breaking). Replaceable parts are nice, but not needed. You wont be scaping your boots up like a GP rider.

Finding something that is comfortable to walk in AND offering great protection will be a hard thing to do. I accept the fact that mine squeak, and are stiff to walk in. I am confident they will do their job if called upon.
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IMO Alpinestars boots are more comfortable and fit a wider range of people. Some find that Sidis are snug or narrow or not as comfortable for walking around. I agree with those saying ankle protection is key. I would recommend the A*s SMX Plus as a good all around boot. They are great for walking in, and are great for the track. My husband wrecked in his and his ankle was fine, and the boots only have minor scuffs.

As for gloves, don't cheap out on them. I got $30 gloves for the class and figured I would learn what I liked as time went by... I learned that I wanted nicer gloves to improve grip, comfort and protection. I ended up with Alpinestars Stella SP-1s which are a women's glove... I think the mens equivalent is the regular SP-1. Don't waste the $30 up front, just go for something better from the start.

As for a jacket, leather is best, next best would be textile. Don't cheap out on a jacket, but you also don't need the most expensive. It doesn't always mean it's best. Find something that FITS the best and has good protection.

Don't forget about your knees. Get some comfortable knee protection that you don't mind wearing
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Knee protection is something I skipped on the gear check. Thanks. Helmets are next in line. Ideas on modular vs standard? I'm going for full face coverage as well. No brain baskets for me lol.
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Knee protection is something I skipped on the gear check. Thanks. Helmets are next in line. Ideas on modular vs standard? I'm going for full face coverage as well. No brain baskets for me lol.
Modular are heavier. They will fatigue your neck more on longer rides.

Most helmets on the market willl give good protection. The big differences are fit (try them all on), wind noise, and the aforementioned weight.
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Knee protection is something I skipped on the gear check. Thanks. Helmets are next in line. Ideas on modular vs standard? I'm going for full face coverage as well. No brain baskets for me lol.
Modular helmets are noisier and tend to be a bit heavier. However, they are pretty versatile and allow you to have a few different helmets for the price of one. If you're going to wear it like a full face though, just get a full face. You'll be happier with it.
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Allright. Sounds good. I have a helmet that is used and fits well but was in a minor accident. I wil be getting rid of it for sure based on some of the info on here. Everyone has said leather is the vest so far. So my next question is what is the difference between leather jacket vs Kevlar? And what about the jackets and such with the reinforced/armored plates? Worth it or gimmick?
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Leather is a whole lot durable and you can still wear it again after a crash. Kevlar is mostly used in riding jeans as it's more durable and less prone to tearing/ripping upon contact. Textile is a lighter choice in fabric and breathes a whole lot better than leather. A lot of people choose this or mesh for hot weather riding but does not offer much against abrasion protection in the event of a long slide. If you go down and go into a long slide, the textile will melt to your skin if you're not wearing anything underneath.

Most jackets have CE rated armor in the shoulders and elbows. Some come with a cheap back pad which you can replace with CE rated padding/armor.
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I love my Sidi Vertigo Airs. I commuted with them for a little bit before I sold my street bike. Sidis are very comfortable. Your best bet is to go try boot choices on and see what feels best for you.

I'd also recommend a leather jacket and over the wrist leather gloves.
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Another thing to note, your jacket should be fitted so that the armor underneath doesn't shift around if you were go down.
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All right. Sounds good guys. Should anyone else have anything to add I'm all ears. Looks like most the basics are covered. Gonna start hunting for retailers seeing as how everything pretty much requires a try on LOL. Any advice for retailers in north west Houston would be great. I know I can Google search it but Google doesnt have the experience you guys have.
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Allright. Sounds good. I have a helmet that is used and fits well but was in a minor accident. I wil be getting rid of it for sure based on some of the info on here. Everyone has said leather is the vest so far. So my next question is what is the difference between leather jacket vs Kevlar? And what about the jackets and such with the reinforced/armored plates? Worth it or gimmick?
Used helmet that has been wrecked in? Wouldn't use it. They're basically one-time-use items.

Leather: Best abrasion resistance at a higher cost and less ventilation. You may find it too hot for Houston.

Textiles: These have come a long way. Many modern textiles are almost as abrasion resistant as leather at less than half the weight and about 70% of the cost. Oh yeah - they breathe a LOT better than leather too.
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All right. Sounds good guys. Should anyone else have anything to add I'm all ears. Looks like most the basics are covered. Gonna start hunting for retailers seeing as how everything pretty much requires a try on LOL. Any advice for retailers in north west Houston would be great. I know I can Google search it but Google doesnt have the experience you guys have.
Motorcycles Unlimited and Two Wheel Toys. Honda of Houston is also a good place to go.
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Back protector is a good investment as well. Forcefield L2K ftmfw.
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Northwest wise, you can try Honda of Houston. don't know any others out that area.

Cycle gear, and 2 wheel toyz are your best bets at trying on gear

Motorcycles Unlimited can size you and order what you need.
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