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Old 10-01-2013, 09:26 AM   #161
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You idiots are trying to justify a guy running someone over because they were taking up all lanes of traffic?? Have you'll ever seen a critical mass ride ? Charity rides? Would the same apply if someone just ran through a pack of people like that? At the end of the day if you don't like what's going on let the pass.. You try to play hero and run your vehicle through the pack this is what happens
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You idiots are trying to justify a guy running someone over because they were taking up all lanes of traffic?? Have you'll ever seen a critical mass ride ? Charity rides? Would the same apply if someone just ran through a pack of people like that? At the end of the day if you don't like what's going on let the pass.. You try to play hero and run your vehicle through the pack this is what happens
I guess you haven't seen the poll results up top.
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You idiots are trying to justify a guy running someone over because they were taking up all lanes of traffic?? Have you'll ever seen a critical mass ride ? Charity rides? Would the same apply if someone just ran through a pack of people like that? At the end of the day if you don't like what's going on let the pass.. You try to play hero and run your vehicle through the pack this is what happens
Did you not watch the video. After he accidentally hit the gsxr they stopped the rr and started to hit his vehicle. Do you honestly think they would have stopped there.
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You idiots are trying to justify a guy running someone over because they were taking up all lanes of traffic?? Have you'll ever seen a critical mass ride ? Charity rides? Would the same apply if someone just ran through a pack of people like that? At the end of the day if you don't like what's going on let the pass.. You try to play hero and run your vehicle through the pack this is what happens
No, we're watching the video and thinking it through. The video shows a rider cut off the RR, and deliberately slow down to try to force the RR slow/stop.. hence the charges as documented in the link compliments of Racer. After the RR bumps the bike, which viewing the situation may be due to a variety of possibilities.. the driver slows and stops. He doesn't continue to try to drive off. It is when they attack his vehicle that he takes off. The point at which he takes off falls within self-defense, and he uses his vehicle to escape, not attack. He had plenty of opportunity to attempt to knock over or injure other riders and did not, thus lending credence to his story as opposed to theirs.
YOU nor we have any evidence of what happened/took place prior and would be purely speculation, what we do know is that many of the riders were riding illegally and in a manner not appropriate for the location.
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No, we're watching the video and thinking it through. The video shows a rider cut off the RR, and deliberately slow down to try to force the RR slow/stop.. hence the charges as documented in the link compliments of Racer. After the RR bumps the bike, which viewing the situation may be due to a variety of possibilities.. the driver slows and stops. He doesn't continue to try to drive off. It is when they attack his vehicle that he takes off. The point at which he takes off falls within self-defense, and he uses his vehicle to escape, not attack. He had plenty of opportunity to attempt to knock over or injure other riders and did not, thus lending credence to his story as opposed to theirs.
YOU nor we have any evidence of what happened/took place prior and would be purely speculation, what we do know is that many of the riders were riding illegally and in a manner not appropriate for the location.

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You idiots are trying to justify a guy running someone over because they were taking up all lanes of traffic?? Have you'll ever seen a critical mass ride ? Charity rides? Would the same apply if someone just ran through a pack of people like that? At the end of the day if you don't like what's going on let the pass.. You try to play hero and run your vehicle through the pack this is what happens

Or.............or.................you could not organize rides where the purpose is to disrupt traffic.

That's, like, an option you know.
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Old 10-01-2013, 09:49 AM   #170
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While I may be new to riding and not had the pleasure of riding with many of you, I am not new to driving and motorcyclist in mass are not a problem, but stunters and or squids, even when alone, definitely are.

Itís a public road which means we have to share it. If someone is tailgating you, a brake check is the DUMBEST thing you can do. Either speed up or get over and let them by. You don't know why they want or maybe even need to get by, so let them go. Itís SAFER for everyone.( That happens to be the law in both NY and TX, that slower(meaning someone is traveling faster than you) traffic must get to the right)

A lot of MC's are like unions particularly in the Northeast, they do a horrible job of showing the public or management that they police their own. 1000's of bikers doing things up right could have won and impressed the public easily by just being out there and doing things right. News flash Squidward the Moto Posing Stunter, you don't have to do anything extra other than be on two wheels because just doing that, people already think is cool. Going beyond that turns you into an idiot.

Hardly any of the bikes on the film had plates which leads me to believe they were out with the intent to at the very least operate the vehicles illegally with the hopes of not getting caught. I think they should be prosecuted for the crimes they can be found guilty of but I hate it when people start talking that "lets" make an example of them" stuff. Punishment should fit the crime and we have already defined both, so no need to get extra emotional about it and making changes to prove an already apparrent point. I would like to see their M endorsements revoked for a period of a year. With jail time and instant reset of the clock for operating a bike on a public road with a SUSPENED M, as a new law. That would make Squidward think twice. It's funny how the camera stops rolling or skillful editing, take your pick, fails to capture the assault and not one Squid stayed to explain what happened to the Cops when they caught up to them.

Fortunately our sport is a self weeding garden and so sadly the White Gixxer Rider who started this whole mess may never walk again. That's unfortunate but it may actually turn out to be for the best, because after what we see here, he and quite a few of that crew, don't belong anywhere near the road, or anything with two wheels.
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Sometimes I wonder how many of you all would pull a gun under the wrong circumstances. I always thought of motorcyclist as a family or brotherhood much like the military. I can honestly say that I am glad I will never had to stand next to any of you or have my life depend on such a irrational and emotional group.

Every family has that one up cousin you try to pretend you're not related to.


Apparently that cousin formed an entire motorcycle club in NY.
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That is nothing like any organized ride I've ever been on. In the Liveleak video, it's obvious they were trying to violate every traffic law in the book in one single event, as well as deprive other motorists of the use of any part of the road whatsoever.

But I guess since we're all bikers, we're supposed to defend the actions of those bikers. Ummm, no.
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No, we're watching the video and thinking it through. The video shows a rider cut off the RR, and deliberately slow down to try to force the RR slow/stop.. hence the charges as documented in the link compliments of Racer. After the RR bumps the bike, which viewing the situation may be due to a variety of possibilities.. the driver slows and stops. He doesn't continue to try to drive off. It is when they attack his vehicle that he takes off. The point at which he takes off falls within self-defense, and he uses his vehicle to escape, not attack. He had plenty of opportunity to attempt to knock over or injure other riders and did not, thus lending credence to his story as opposed to theirs.
YOU nor we have any evidence of what happened/took place prior and would be purely speculation, what we do know is that many of the riders were riding illegally and in a manner not appropriate for the location.
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But to most of the world and most of the motorcycle community everyone can see what happened and all agree they would have done the same.


1. The ride they set up should be more organized and not taking up the whole freeway. (I hate critical mass so dont bring that up)

2. maybe pay some motorcycle officers to help them on the ride ( obviously they are not doing something legal)

3. Should have not tried to stip in front of a rr when they have a high braking distance

4. Called the cops when the rr hit him. ( obviously they want to be cool and with the driver and possibly injure him)

Or

just keep in riding and not be bothered by it


for the person that was injured with a family

They should have not been on a ride and made an adult decision by going on a more controlled ride.
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Fortunately our sport is a self weeding garden and so sadly the White Gixxer Rider who started this whole mess may never walk again. That's unfortunate but it may actually turn out to be for the best, because after what we see here, he and quite a few of that crew, don't belong anywhere near the road, or anything with two wheels.
Actually it appears the rider who was injured (and it appears worse than reported by the news) was not the arsehat who cut off the driver and initiated the encounter caught in the video.
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Actually it appears the rider who was injured (and it appears worse than reported by the news) was not the arsehat who cut off the driver and initiated the encounter caught in the video.
That's a shame.
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You idiots are trying to justify a guy running someone over because they were taking up all lanes of traffic?? Have you'll ever seen a critical mass ride ? Charity rides? Would the same apply if someone just ran through a pack of people like that? At the end of the day if you don't like what's going on let the pass.. You try to play hero and run your vehicle through the pack this is what happens
For some reason, almost every stunting oriented rider seems to be watching a completely different video than the one the rest of the world is watching.

The guy in the hospital with broken bones would be in the morgue with broken bones plus a few speed holes had that happened in TX.
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That's a shame.
however, as previously pointed out....he is an adult and chose to participate in this hooliganism. I've been on group rides where I did not feel safe or did not like the mannerisms of said group. I broke off and went home. Little sympathy here.
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Actually it appears the rider who was injured (and it appears worse than reported by the news) was not the arsehat who cut off the driver and initiated the encounter caught in the video.
That is a shame, but when you choose to sleep with pigs you get muddy. He put himself in harms way by riding with a group of reckless . This is why cops have such a hard-on for sport bikes. The actions of the few put a stigma on all of us
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