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Old 10-04-2013, 02:57 PM   #561
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That guy is an idiot, as the saying goes, "sheep don't run with wolves". As others have pointed out, when I've been on rides that have started this kind of , I bail and head far far away, this guy hung around and the injuries to Jay Meezee are on his head now. Upstanding father right there.
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That guy is an idiot, as the saying goes, "sheep don't run with wolves". As others have pointed out, when I've been on rides that have started this kind of , I bail and head far far away, this guy hung aroundWho are you talking about? and the injuries to Jay Meezee are on his head now. Upstanding father right there.
The way I read it that guy wasn't there, he was just quoted for the story.....


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The way I read it that guy wasn't there, he was just quoted for the story.....


Ah, I stand corrected, I mistakenly thought he was part of the Hollywood Stuntaz.
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Ah, I stand corrected, I mistakenly thought he was part of the Hollywood Stuntaz.


I was confused as for a second there.
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yup also my bad. they should have placed that by the section he was already in. not after
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Wait...remeber first is was the mieses was trying to help the rider that was bumped....

and now it's
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"He was attempting to defuse the situation," she said. "He turned his back to the SUV to start walking back to his own bike. It was then, with his back to the SUV and he was in front of it, that he was run over and crushed."
...and of course his attorney is claiming his license status doesn't matter because he was not on the bike and applicable to him as a 'victim'.
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How does his wife know what happened. He is in a coma
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Wait...remeber first is was the mieses was trying to help the rider that was bumped....

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...and of course his attorney is claiming his license status doesn't matter because he was not on the bike and applicable to him as a 'victim'.
the bright spot in all of this is that it will be hard to find a local jury to feel sympathetic when they see the whole story. I am sure the majority of the people are plenty tired of those dudes and it will reflect in the end.
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Wow, undercover cop was there at the beating

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Meaningless. They have done worse.
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No police have to ever help you. Just cause there is a cop standing there as you're being attacked means absolutely notheng. He can and will watch you get seriously hurt or killed.

Its up to yourself to protect yourself. NYC will not allow you to own a gun and they also will argue til the cows come home that they have absolutely zero obligation to EVER protect one citizen.

But they will quickly show up to make arrests and add another one to their arrest record.
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so the riders were messing w/ the wife at the final stop

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Bikers are now attacking other range rovers.

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The story gets thicker....duh duh DUUUUUUH!
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NEW YORK (WABC) -- The biker seen on-camera using his helmet to smash in the driver's side window of the vehicle was formally charged Saturday night.

Police say 37-year-old Reginald Chance of Brooklyn used his helmet to smash the driver's side window of the Range Rover last Sunday. He is being charged with assault and criminal mischief.

Earlier, Eyewitness News learned that among the bikers on the Henry Hudson last weekend, were five off-duty NYPD officers.

Sources say at least two detectives witnessed the attack on Alexian Lien and did not directly intervene. And investigators are still working to determine what role, if any, was played by the other three officers.

What is clear, sources say, is that the men did not begin to come forward until late Wednesday, four full-days after the incident.

And detectives are also investigating reports that several others in the group may have been off-duty New York City correction officers.

An undercover detective has informed Internal Affairs that he was present at the time of the confrontation.

The undercover narcotics detective, himself a motorcycle rider, was off duty. Official sources say he did not get involved because he did not want to blow his cover. Internal Affairs is now investigating. The undercover detective is being advised by an attorney.

On Saturday, police released photos of another suspect they want to speak to about his possible involvement in the incident.

Earlier Friday, the biker who allegedly opened the SUV's door at one point during the chase was taken into custody.

35-year-old Robert Sims, who grabbed the SUV's door at 5:05 seconds into the YouTube video, surrendered to police in Brooklyn, and was arraigned on Saturday.

Sims, a union electrician from Brooklyn, stood before a Manhattan judge, who set bond at $100,000. Sims is also being charged with assault among other things. Investigators say he tried to open the Range Rover's door as driver, Alexian Lien fled from bikers.

Sims' lawyer, Luther Williams, says his client did nothing illegal, and that prosecutors are haphazardly charging as many bikers as possible, hoping something will stick.

"It appears to be they're trying to indict everyone as doing something illegal, and I think that's unfair, said Williams.

In the meantime, the increasingly complex investigation continues. Police say an undercover narcotics detective has been stripped of his gun and badge after allegedly witnessing the assault and not reporting it. Sources say he didn't get involved because he didn't want his cover blown.

At least four other off-duty NYPD and Corrections Officers may have also been present.


The undercover detective is now on desk duty.

It is not clear when Reginald Chance will be arraigned. Police say there will be likely others arrested and charged in this case.

Detectives are also looking at about a half dozen other bikers who may have had a role in the assault of the driver. Some have already been interviewed by investigators after being identified by video and photographs that have been coming in. Investigators are interviewing as many motorcyclists as possible to determine their roles before filing charges.

"This is a complex investigation with a lot of people involved," a source said.

Dayana Mejia cried during a press conference in New York City. Mejia says her partner and a biker left paralyzed in the confrontation, 32-year-old Edwin Mieses Jr., is an adoring father to the couple's two children.

"I love him so much it tears me up that anyone could think that Edwin in any way deserves what happened to him," she said.

Mejia says the people who participated in the motorcycle ride are "not thugs."

Gloria Allred, Mieses' attorney, says he was trying to "calm people down" when the SUV hit him on Sunday.

Video shows the SUV surrounded by dozens of helmeted riders. The driver, Alexian Lien, drove through the crowd and struck Mieses.

Police want to speak with two bystanders about what happened, and they have released images of the witnesses.



Everything started when the Range Rover bumped a biker on the Henry Hudson Parkway. As motorcyclists gathered around Lien's vehicle, he took off, running over Edwin Mieses and sparking the chase and vicious assault that followed.



Bikers insist that Lien was the aggressor.

"He drove erratically and bumped the bike on the side," one biker said. "When he bumped that bike on the side, that bike became aggressive because his life was in danger."

Lien's wife, Rosalyn Ng, explained why her husband fled the scene and inadvertently drove over Mieses, saying their lives were put in grave danger.

"We were faced with a life-threatening situation, and my husband was forced under the circumstances to take the actions that he did in order to protect the lives of our entire family," Ng said.

She said her family's sympathies went out to Mieses, who broke both legs and suffered spinal injuries that may leave him paralyzed, but said there was no other option than to flee.

"Our fear for our lives was confirmed when the incident ended with the ruthless and brutal attack on my husband, me, and, most importantly, our 2-year-old child," Ng said. "We know in our hearts that we could not have done anything differently, and we believe that anyone faced with this sort of grave danger would have taken the same course of action in order to protect their family."



The biker involved in the initial accident, Christopher Cruz, is charged with reckless driving and unlawful imprisonment. Prosecutors served notice that they intend to take the case against Cruz to a grand jury, a sign that more serious charges are likely.

A second suspect, Allen Edwards, 42, of Jamaica, Queens, surrendered to police at the 33rd Precinct Tuesday night. It is believed he is the man who punched the rear window of the SUV with his fists at the end of the video.

He was held and questioned, and police initially said he would be charged with reckless endangerment, criminal mischief and menacing. But the office declined to prosecute at this time, pending further investigation of the entire incident.
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