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Old 09-06-2013, 09:30 PM   #1
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Has anyone been to any of the California Superbike School events? If so, what do you think of the program? I'm planning on going to the Vegas 2 day camp in November.
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Old 09-06-2013, 11:16 PM   #2
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I've been meaning to make it out to one of those as well
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You think they'll come to COTA next year?
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Old 09-07-2013, 12:47 AM   #5
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Old 09-07-2013, 08:25 AM   #7
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Rode with them at TWS (Texas World Speedway) a few years back.

Very structured.....morning can get a bit tedious but it pays off.

They teach kind of Miyagi style. One session you only get to use 1st n 2nd gear. The next session 3rd only.....n strange stuff like that. Once they bring it all together, it will all start to click.
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Rode with them at TWS (Texas World Speedway) a few years back.

Very structured.....morning can get a bit tedious but it pays off.

They teach kind of Miyagi style. One session you only get to use 1st n 2nd gear. The next session 3rd only.....n strange stuff like that. Once they bring it all together, it will all start to click.
Is there anything you would have done differently to get more out of it?
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Old 09-07-2013, 03:06 PM   #9
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I took the 2 day weekend class in Vegas earlier this year in February.

Overall had a blast, it was a very well organized event and I felt the instructors were top notch and very attentive. They had the new 2013 S1000rr that we got to break in, which was a major perk at least for me.

In my experience they split up the class in 2 groups, each group having people either in levels 1/2 and levels 3/4. I was in Levels 1/2. First day was level one material, second day was level two material. Keith Code did some of the class room instruction for level 3/4 I believe. His son did most of the class rooom instruction for 1/2 and he was very cool.

The track time was great, probably 6-8 sessions a day from memory. You are assigned a designated instructor who has 2 people he monitors each session, so you get quite a bit of personal feedback after each session. That was the best part for me, just getting constant feedback after each session with my instructor.

You also get 1 video session per day from my experience where you ride a specially equipped s1000rr with a go pro mounted from behind. After the video session you go into a trailer and a instructor goes over your video with you and provides additional feedback. Keith was around when we were reviewing my tape and it was cool getting some compliments and feedback from him.

They also have special bikes for doing hard braking and a lean bike which shows you how far you can lean safely. I recommend trying to make sure you get to do both of them, they were both pretty eye opening for me.

Some people don't like the new age vibe since Keith Code is a pretty well known scientologist, but you probably wouldn't be able to tell if you didn't know it going in. I think from the outside you'll just think they are laid back guys who grew up surfing in LA.

It's obviously a pricey investment, but all in all thought it was worth it as a splurge. Being in Vegas next to Nellis AFB where F16's fly above you while you are zooming around on a motorcycle makes you feel like you are in a remake of Top Gun

I'll probably try to do level 3/4 sometime in the next 6-8 months, but i'll probably opt for trying willow springs or leguna seca.
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I've done all 4 levels and was an instructor with the school for 3 years. I'd highly recommend it. The 2 day camps are expensive but they pack a lot of stuff into them that the regular schools don't have, and you get more one-on-one instructor time.
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Old 09-19-2013, 02:17 AM   #11
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I was telling John Fitzsimmons (plate #795) at TWS (Texas World Speedway) that I was considering take it and he told me that he had at Barber and highly recommended. John is very a fast, I'm going to do it too probable in California.
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I've done all 4 levels and was an instructor with the school for 3 years. I'd highly recommend it. The 2 day camps are expensive but they pack a lot of stuff into them that the regular schools don't have, and you get more one-on-one instructor time.
I've done 2 day camps at Barber and at their "home" Willow Springs. Not only do you get more instructor time at the two day camps (2 students to one instructor), but you get more seat time as well (30 minute sessions, not 20 minute sessions).

If you have the money, it is a great investment in your future riding.

This is a true school, with great theory presented in the classroom sessions (keep the cool handouts, because not everything will sink in the first time or three), and progressive drills on the track through the day. Only in the last session of the day are you really released to ride free of drills.

This is not a "track day," this is a school. Treat it as such and you will get a lot out of it. My advice would be to take a step back at this school from trying to "go fast," and focus on the instruction and drills. Use the school to reinforce the fundamentals which will allow you to go fast later.
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This is not a "track day," this is a school. Treat it as such and you will get a lot out of it. My advice would be to take a step back at this school from trying to "go fast," and focus on the instruction and drills. Use the school to reinforce the fundamentals which will allow you to go fast later.
Well said.

This school is definitely money well spent. At the end of tha day, you'll be hating it because you are going through so much material and drills that time flyes on by.
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Fackin' marvelous. Clarity and insight without bounds. Offered insight and opened my mind to a whole world of perception that I never would have been aware of.

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