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Old 04-04-2007, 09:34 AM   #21
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I find it wrong that the parents of said youth are not held responsible for the poor job they did of raising this societal degenerate they call their son.

But thats just me. :icon_bigg
Were the kid not in his late teens, I would agree but I don't always think we should look to the parents for responsibility...in instances where we are referring to early juveniles, yes, but how much control do you really have over someone who is basically a grown man and has already established their personality? Sure, the parents did a bad job of building the foundation for integrity in their son but to insist they carry more responsibility than does the individual who carries out said trespasses is a bit much. But that's just me. I just think people should be held accountable for their actions, rather than the parents who may have not been the best at parenting but who's child actually carried out the crime. Just my .02 on the matter
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I hope the kid didn't bleed a whole lot, shame to have to clean up after someone
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^^^^ Yea, I'd bet that suck to have to clean someone else's blood off of your own kitchen floor. At least it wasn't carpet. Hopefully.
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Were the kid not in his late teens, I would agree but I don't always think we should look to the parents for responsibility...in instances where we are referring to early juveniles, yes, but how much control do you really have over someone who is basically a grown man and has already established their personality? Sure, the parents did a bad job of building the foundation for integrity in their son but to insist they carry more responsibility than does the individual who carries out said trespasses is a bit much. But that's just me. I just think people should be held accountable for their actions, rather than the parents who may have not been the best at parenting but who's child actually carried out the crime. Just my .02 on the matter
I would only agree if the accusee had severe punishment as an adult. Too many kids are just sent back home with a slap on the wrist. No consequences. Some get what they deserve.
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I would only agree if the accusee had severe punishment as an adult. Too many kids are just sent back home with a slap on the wrist. No consequences. Some get what they deserve.

WERD! Remember those kids who took my mirrors? They were high and they had done this to other vehicles... NOTHING HAPPENED TO THEM! I know that one kid's dad beat the fack out of him. But legally, nothing happened to them!!!:BangHead:
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Were the kid not in his late teens, I would agree but I don't always think we should look to the parents for responsibility...in instances where we are referring to early juveniles, yes, but how much control do you really have over someone who is basically a grown man and has already established their personality? Sure, the parents did a bad job of building the foundation for integrity in their son but to insist they carry more responsibility than does the individual who carries out said trespasses is a bit much. But that's just me. I just think people should be held accountable for their actions, rather than the parents who may have not been the best at parenting but who's child actually carried out the crime. Just my .02 on the matter
This is the source of the problem. The parents shouldn't be completely held accounted for, but they have a lot to do with it. And if it's hard to change a teen from his bad ways, then why do we expect the law to do it? I think kids are more scared of their parents than police officers. JUST AXIN!!
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Old 04-05-2007, 09:24 AM   #29
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Sure the parents have alot to do with it, but in the end, were they the ones who actually carried out the crime? No. I agree taht parents hold some responsibility and I stress that if the kid was 15 or so, yeah, the parents should definately be held accountable, but if the kid is 17...puniitive action should only be considered for the individual rather than the parents. There is no real shared responsibility for this. Now as far as kids being more afraid of cops than they are kids, I believe this used to be the case but since we can't whoop our kids anymore for fear of a visit from the CPS, kids aren't able to be disciplined the way that some need to be disciplined (I personally don't give a dayum, As my mom said: I brought um into this world and I'll take they out of it). Now I don't believe that all kids need to be whooped all the time as I know that different children respond differently to different stimuli, but I think alot of the kids we see today getting into trouble would otherwise be more productive individuals later in life with the threat of getting their whipped as they developed. The CPS is part of the problem...
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ya know, if that fukhead kid had taken the gun from the old guy and the old guy got shot...they would try the kid as an adult...(he was 17 right?) So if the state looks at you as an adult, then you are entirely responsible for your actions, regardless of mom and dad.

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ya know, if that fukhead kid had taken the gun from the old guy and the old guy got shot...they would try the kid as an adult...(he was 17 right?) So if the state looks at you as an adult, then you are entirely responsible for your actions, regardless of mom and dad.

moral of the story:

...people, if your kid gets out of line, whip their before someone else does!!!
Yup, what he said!
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