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Old 08-27-2013, 07:44 PM   #1
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Hey there guys I'm in need of advice and I couldn't think of a better group of people to ask. I have an 06 yzf stock 600r. I can't get the front end up in second, only first. What sprocket set up should I use without sacrificing too much top speed? And any other advice is welcome. Thank you for your time.
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Old 08-27-2013, 08:02 PM   #2
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More throttle, more experience. You shouldn't have a problem getting it up in 2nd with stock sprockets. A larger rear will make it easier but it's not impossible with stock sized. To make it easier, down 1 tooth inn the front and +2 in the rear is a good setup for the street.
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Old 08-27-2013, 08:09 PM   #3
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I would go -1 on the front +2 at lest on the rear. You would need more torque to bring her up easier. Check gearingcommander.com you can play with different set ups and they will tell you the theoretical drop on speed or torque depending on what you want.

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Old 08-27-2013, 09:10 PM   #4
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Cheaper route would probably be just go with -1 up front without having to replace the chain.

-1 up front is is about the same as +3 in the rear.
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Old 08-27-2013, 11:46 PM   #5
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More throttle, more experience. You shouldn't have a problem getting it up in 2nd with stock sprockets. A larger rear will make it easier but it's not impossible with stock sized. To make it easier, down 1 tooth inn the front and +2 in the rear is a good setup for the street.
I pop the clutch at 2nd and 3rd at about 4 to 6rpm Nd I max it out and nothing. Thanks everyone for the input. Ill put serious thought in every response.
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Old 08-28-2013, 12:19 AM   #6
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I pop the clutch at 2nd and 3rd at about 4 to 6rpm Nd I max it out and nothing. Thanks everyone for the input. Ill put serious thought in every response.
I have been learning as well and am running stock gears, I find that I have to be close to the power band(7 to 8rpm) to get the wheel up a little.
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I have been learning as well and am running stock gears, I find that I have to be close to the power band(7 to 8rpm) to get the wheel up a little.
Literally went out immediately after reading this and I'm tellin u guys. If it comes up at all its maybe an inch. I'm thinking ill just have to regear it.
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You need to rev it more, I do it at 7-8k, but if you're reading it and then trying to do it, it won't work. You have to feel the bike, practice, practice, practice, that is my best advise, I'd over vids and just try to look for common points in them, so when I went and tried, I did my way, it took mw a while but it finally happened. You get to feel your bike and you'll know when she's ready to go up.
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Literally went out immediately after reading this and I'm tellin u guys. If it comes up at all its maybe an inch. I'm thinking ill just have to regear it.

Forgot to mention its not getting that high for me either at 7 or 8. Im just to scared to give it more, don't feel like flipping. I also notice that i have to have the rpm sitting at 7 or 8 for a moment im not really poping the clutch there. I bring the rpms up 7 keep it constant then wrap the throttle first while poping the clutch at the same time. Hard to explain and don't want to give you bad advice seeing as i can barely get the wheel up also.Also are you standing on the bike, left leg on passenger peg and right on the brake? When im trying im sitting because don't have my passenger peg on the left side, so try that and it might be easier. Go to youtube and watch a few vids and take some notes and find what works for you. I do know for a fact you don't have to regear as I have gotten the wheel up way past my comfort zone once. I don't know how I did it but it scared the out of me. Plus I have seen ninja 250, and 300 do wheelies so I know for sure mine can do it I just have to practice more. I really want to find an open lot to practice in but have not been able to find one.
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Are you doing it on 1st or 2nd gear Donte? I've brought mine up on 1st and 2nd and after I dropped I tooth on the front even third, but not on purpose. It has been easier for me doing it on second though, left on the passenger peg and gas as needed, just ride it out.
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Are you doing it on 1st or 2nd gear Donte? I've brought mine up on 1st and 2nd and after I dropped I tooth on the front even third, but not on purpose. It has been easier for me doing it on second though, left on the passenger peg and gas as needed, just ride it out.
I have been able to get it up a little in 1,2 and 3. You have a 929 and have way more torque then me. 2 seems to be the easiest for me to, but I feel like im not popping the clutch fast enough
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Old 08-28-2013, 01:56 PM   #12
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Alot of it is about shifting your wieght back. Good luck though you just need more practice!
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Old 08-28-2013, 02:06 PM   #13
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I've been practicing in 1st for awhile now. Consistently getting about 1-2ft off the ground, but its hard for me to keep it rolling. Even after the wheel comes up i give it even more throttle, but still cant keep it going, and i dont have the to shift with the wheel up. I haven't had much luck at all in 2nd, but I'm probably not going fast enough to start with. Stock gearing BTW
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Old 08-28-2013, 02:10 PM   #14
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PS.. all sit downs as well. But I'm also in no hurry to be a wheelie master!
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You guys just need more throttle. I can get my stock R6 up in second no problem. It's not stock anymore however. I take mine to about 7k in second gear, smash the throttle and blip the clutch. I'm no wheelie king or a stunter. Just giving some advice. I use to think the same thing about my bike. Then I just figured out I was scared and being a wuss.
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Not saying you CANT stunt it, but a 600r isn't a good bike to stunt with. Its carbed, and heavy.

something like an F4i would be a better place to start. Plus, there isn't much after market for a 600r.
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Not saying you CANT stunt it, but a 600r isn't a good bike to stunt with. Its carbed, and heavy.

something like an F4i would be a better place to start. Plus, there isn't much after market for a 600r.
the 06s were still carb'd?

Wow.
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, there are still plenty of bikes that are carbed
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