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Old 08-18-2013, 02:13 AM   #1
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1000cc+2x200hp electric motors=400HP! from EBR

More info on the latest EBR patent. 1000cc motor plus 2 200hp electric motors to produce a 400HP bike. Holy !

http://gas2.org/2013/08/16/erik-buel...id-motorcycle/
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Old 08-18-2013, 06:39 AM   #2
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Don't we already have a thread on this bike?

:edit: , you even started the other one. Simplify, man...
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Thanks to the US 20130168171 A1 patent we can make a pretty safe guess that Buell is working on an hybrid scooter equipped with a 300 cc engine that powers an electric motor to deliver a maximum output of 200 hp. Apart from its hybrid configuration, the new scooter will also feature an innovative 15 liter fuel tank that is integrated into the frame.
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Pretty cool, but I find it hard to be interested in electric motorcycles (nor do I think electric cars are the answer anyway)

If anything make my car electric, leave my moto to rumble and roar.

Plus the bike will probably be dead after 3 min at full power or some
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Pretty cool, but I find it hard to be interested in electric motorcycles (nor do I think electric cars are the answer anyway)

If anything make my car electric, leave my moto to rumble and roar.

Plus the bike will probably be dead after 3 min at full power or some
You must have missed it where it said 1000cc motor + 2 200hp electric motors. It's a hybrid. Same with the scooter. It's a 300cc gas motor with a 200hp electric motor making it a 200hp scooter. The patent states using the gas motors with the electric motors, or either/or, and using the gas motors to charge the batteries for the electric motors. A 200HP scooter! I'm pretty sure that scooter would beat your bike off the line since electric motors have full torque at any speed.
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You must have missed it where it said 1000cc motor + 2 200hp electric motors. It's a hybrid. Same with the scooter. It's a 300cc gas motor with a 200hp electric motor making it a 200hp scooter. The patent states using the gas motors with the electric motors, or either/or, and using the gas motors to charge the batteries for the electric motors. A 200HP scooter! I'm pretty sure that scooter would beat your bike off the line since electric motors have full torque at any speed.
No, I'm positive it would beat my 2002 VFR. Just in general I wouldn't want an all electric bike.
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This is where I usually get on my soap box about how Electric vehicles and hybrids are stupid because they are killing the environment but... I am gonna leave that bell semi unrung.
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The 1000cc twin electric motor hybrid bike will go about as far as the tomahawk motorcycle the weight of it would be EXTREMELY heavy once you add in a fuel tank and batterys not to mention a 1000cc motor and 2 massive electric motors and a generator you are looking at over a 1,000lbs might as well get a boss hoss with a 400+hp ls motor!

Its a cool concept and on paper it sounds legit but in real life its unreal!
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I mean seriously that is 298,400 Watts of electricity to create 400hp from electric motors the generator would have to be huge and have lots of battery back so the batteries would be massive might as well use a nuclear reactor as the motor!
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I mean seriously that is 298,400 Watts of electricity to create 400hp from electric motors the generator would have to be huge and have lots of battery back so the batteries would be massive might as well use a nuclear reactor as the motor!
What hole are you pulling this out of? huge motors? massive batteries? generator? The gas motor is the generator and you dont need large batteries when the gas engine is constantly charging the battery.

Here is from the ZeroFX website a current all electric bike:

355 lb
Max torque 68 ft-lb
Max power 54 hp (40 kW) @ 4,300 RPM
Max capacity 8.5 kWh
http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/zero-s/specs.php
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No, I'm positive it would beat my 2002 VFR. Just in general I wouldn't want an all electric bike.
Where in any of that did you get "all electric bike"?
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Jesus! Those motors are massive! Must be photoshopped.
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Where in any of that did you get "all electric bike"?
Nothing, just in GENERAL I don't like the idea of electric bikes.


Back to the thread, pretty cool idea. I really want to see EBR bring some affordable American made sportbikes eventually.
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What hole are you pulling this out of? huge motors? massive batteries? generator? The gas motor is the generator and you dont need large batteries when the gas engine is constantly charging the battery.

Here is from the ZeroFX website a current all electric bike:

355 lb
Max torque 68 ft-lb
Max power 54 hp (40 kW) @ 4,300 RPM
Max capacity 8.5 kWh
http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/zero-s/specs.php
You verified my answer right there with the specs on that bike now imagine a drive system 8 times larger and ok instead of batteries you have a 1000cc motor powering a generator ok thats still weight!

The motor in the bike you mention here 54hp it takes 40, kilowatts to run that motor! Now 2x200hp electric motors geeze now that is a ton of power it takes to spin those motors ESPECAILY at full output those pics you post are just concepts not reality thats why there are no vids of the EBR bike running if it were that easy the Tesla roadsters would be way faster and cheaper right now with are technology its a pipe dream but im not going to argue with you as I was always taught never to argue with retards they will only drag you down to there level and beat you with experience!
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Here is from the ZeroFX website a current all electric bike:

355 lb
Max torque 68 ft-lb
Max power 54 hp (40 kW) @ 4,300 RPM
Max capacity 8.5 kWh
http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/zero-s/specs.php
I actually considered one of these as a commuter, something about having my employer cover half the energy cost of my drive & the minimal maintenance requirements sounds nice.

Then I noticed the price...

Likely the same scenario with this concept... However unrealistic it may be.

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The concept of an electric bike is just dumb .

You know, the last thing I want to sound like when going down the street is my electric drill.
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Oh ,

I look up a video of "electric motorcycle" and this is what pops up.

My , I nearly spit my drink out laughing so hard.




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http://www.egrandprix.com/

http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-...ogp/18658.html

"A qualifying lap of 1:31.376 was 10 seconds off the pace of the leading MotoGP time set by Jorge Lorenzo and nearly five seconds off Josh Hayes pole-setting lap of 1:24.7. Putting the times into perspective, Rapp exclaimed that the electric revolution was the future and the ‘real deal’"






Interesting, not what I found. Google and Youtube must know your preferences for simplistic.
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