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Old 08-22-2013, 10:50 AM   #61
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Hmmmm....very skeptical american here!
Unless you are eating bitter melon and flax seed to fill your stomach before eating higher calorie foods, I am throwing the bullshit flag on those two items preventing weight gain...again, unless they are utilized as fillers prior to eating richer foods.
LOL!! U always have a way with words.
Bitter melon is really nutritious for u. In Việt we call it "hu hoa". I never learned to eat it. What a shame. Had I did, I could quite possibly be skinny already. My peeps stuff it with pork n into a broth, making it an entree. Or..sliced with pork.
I, dont touch it and steer clear. Acquired taste.
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Nopales..isnt that...cactus? NoooOooo. Ill have a cactus plant pet though.
bitter melon? Oh heck no. The bumpy light green cucumber shape right? I cant do bitter. Ill die.

I maintained my weight. I need to lose more n get my body back! Rooar!

Heyy, so..u posted that one pic on a cruiser from yonder years ago. Ur still the same weight!
hahaha no, i was like 18 in that pic..... in my late 20's and early 30's i was 185lbs, in the last few years due to my diabetes i started to loose weight gradually to keep myself healthy because obesity is one of the side effects of diabetes, so now i weight pretty much like when i was 18
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LOL!! U always have a way with words.
Bitter melon is really nutritious for u. In Việt we call it "hu hoa". I never learned to eat it. What a shame. Had I did, I could quite possibly be skinny already. My peeps stuff it with pork n into a broth, making it an entree. Or..sliced with pork.
I, dont touch it and steer clear. Acquired taste.
Well that is an interesting way to manage weight.
Package up a good meat into a horrible wrapper so you only eat what you can stand before throwing in the towel!
I am sure it works!
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Hmmmm....very skeptical american here!
Unless you are eating bitter melon and flax seed to fill your stomach before eating higher calorie foods, I am throwing the bullshit flag on those two items preventing weight gain...again, unless they are utilized as fillers prior to eating richer foods.
Well, you just need to open your mind to new horizons my friend

do some research, lots of info available about the 2 items i have mentioned, the other one is an India tree, consumed by Ghandi himself called Noni, the locals call it the miracle tree for a reason and big pharmaceutical companies are buying the whole production to make lots of healthy products plus natural (chemical free) insecticides.

As far as cactus, lots of U.S. universities and people in the medical field have done research in the early 1940's about the health benefits of Mexican Cactus, too bad we have Washington lobbiest working for big pharmaceutical companies that want to keep all that info in the dark so they can keep selling their diabetes pills and then have people do dialysis in their later years... The high fiber content and Peptin found on Nopales are the key to absorb sugar and bad choresterol in your system! Prickly pear contains vitamins C and B, beta carotene, iron, calcium, potassium, magnesium, amino acids, antioxidants, and various other nutrients that reverse free radical damage in cells as well as cut inflammation.

Quote from the last 3 paragraphs:

"Two years ago, President Obama and first lady Michelle Obama welcomed Mexican President Felipe Calderón and his wife, Margarita Zavala, and 200 other guests to the White House for their second state dinner. You can bet nobody served cheese and bean burritos, tacos, white rice, or fajitas at the state dinner. The prickly pear cactus also appeared as a centerpiece on the tables.

The East Room's menu of gourmet Mexican food by guest chef Rick Bayless smacked of royal treatment of the highest high quality. After dinner, pop superstar Beyoncé entertained an additional 111 invited guests.

Guests included well known actresses, athletes, celebrities, and Mexican billionaire who happens also to be the world's richest man, Carlos Slim. So how does this relate to Sacramento? Exotic Mexican food, or rather high-quality Mexican food known for its health value is becoming popular in Sacramento, and one of the most emphasized foods is the prickly pear, the nopales, edible cactus."


http://www.examiner.com/article/holi...s-prickly-pear

http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supple...0PEAR%20CACTUS

Benefits of bitter Melon can also be found on the internet, just too lazy to do the research for you.
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Well, you just need to open your mind to new horizons my friend

do some research, lots of info available about the 2 items i have mentioned, the other one is an India tree, consumed by Ghandi himself called Noni, the locals call it the miracle tree for a reason and big pharmaceutical companies are buying the whole production to make lots of healthy products plus natural (chemical free) insecticides.

As far as cactus, lots of U.S. universities and people in the medical field have done research in the early 1940's about the health benefits of Mexican Cactus, too bad we have Washington lobbiest working for big the pharmaceutical companies that want to keep all that info in the dark so they can keep selling their diabetes pills and then have people do dialysis in their later years... The high fiber content and Peptin found on Nopales are the key to absorb sugar and bad choresterol in your system! Prickly pear contains vitamins C and B, beta carotene, iron, calcium, potassium, magnesium, amino acids, antioxidants, and various other nutrients that reverse free radical damage in cells as well as cut inflammation.

Quote from the last 3 paragraphs:

"Two years ago, President Obama and first lady Michelle Obama welcomed Mexican President Felipe Calderón and his wife, Margarita Zavala, and 200 other guests to the White House for their second state dinner. You can bet nobody served cheese and bean burritos, tacos, white rice, or fajitas at the state dinner. The prickly pear cactus also appeared as a centerpiece on the tables.

The East Room's menu of gourmet Mexican food by guest chef Rick Bayless smacked of royal treatment of the highest high quality. After dinner, pop superstar Beyoncé entertained an additional 111 invited guests.

Guests included well known actresses, athletes, celebrities, and Mexican billionaire who happens also to be the world's richest man, Carlos Slim. So how does this relate to Sacramento? Exotic Mexican food, or rather high-quality Mexican food known for its health value is becoming popular in Sacramento, and one of the most emphasized foods is the prickly pear, the nopales, edible cactus."


http://www.examiner.com/article/holi...s-prickly-pear

http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supple...0PEAR%20CACTUS

Benefits of bitter Melon can also be found on the internet, just too lazy to do the research for you.
Well,
my mind is wide open and so are my eyes.
So, if there were true measurable weight loss benefits to the bitter melon and flax seed supplements, it would be a multi billion dollar industry eclipsed only by the cure for the common cold. Fat people worldwide would be hoarding the supply!
No really, I think there may be some benefit to the supplements; however, there is no substitute for eating a reasonable amount of good calories and moving more.
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LOL!! U always have a way with words.
Bitter melon is really nutritious for u. In Việt we call it "hu hoa". I never learned to eat it. What a shame. Had I did, I could quite possibly be skinny already. My peeps stuff it with pork n into a broth, making it an entree. Or..sliced with pork.
I, dont touch it and steer clear. Acquired taste.
Yeah it takes some time to get used to it but after a while, the bitterness goes away, in my case i have become immune to it. The cactus has no flavor at all just like tofu, you can add whatever flavor you want and eat it that way
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my mind is wide open and so are my eyes.
So, if there were true measurable weight loss benefits to the bitter melon and flax seed supplements, it would be a multi billion dollar industry eclipsed only by the cure for the common cold. Fat people worldwide would be hoarding the supply!
No really, I think there may be some benefit to the supplements; however, there is no substitute for eating a reasonable amount of good calories and moving more.
No Jeff seriously, you are one of the most closed minded people i have met so far

but fat people are fat for eating the wrong things and the wrong quantity to start with, all they care is the flavor and are not concerned about the health benefits or nutritional value on whatever they put into their mouth. I am living proof that what it is found in nature works for me and a few million other people outside the USA. If i didnt eat the nopales, bitter melon, etc. i would be 300lbs by now........ take for example, what did you eat last night at Best Burger? I ate a triple cheeseburger, fried rice, pepper steak beef, fried egg roll and a bottle of Mexican coke which contains real sugar, i probably ate double what you ate last night but i didnt gain any weight at all...... been doing this for lots of years already

On a related note...... Tesla and Mr. Chase (JP Morgan) were partners in the evolution of electrifying the world with a wifi grid, where power will be provided to every end of the world, Mr. Chase stopped all funding as soon as he found out Tesla's dream was to provide free electricity to the world and not a single penny will be made for the financial institution!
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No Jeff seriously, you are one of the most closed minded people i have met so far

but fat people are fat for eating the wrong things and the wrong quantity to start with, all they care is the flavor and are not concerned about the health benefits or nutritional value on whatever they put into their mouth. I am living proof that what it is found in nature works for me and a few million other people outside the USA. If i didnt eat the nopales, bitter melon, etc. i would be 300lbs by now........ take for example, what did you eat last night at Best Burger? I ate a triple cheeseburger, fried rice, pepper steak beef, fried egg roll and a bottle of Mexican coke which contains real sugar, i probably ate double what you ate last night but i didnt gain any weight at all...... been doing this for lots of years already

On a related note...... Tesla and Mr. Chase (JP Morgan) were partners in the evolution of electrifying the world with a wifi grid, where power will be provided to every end of the world, Mr. Chase stopped all funding as soon as he found out Tesla's dream was to provide free electricity to the world and not a single penny will be made for the financial institution!
Cant tell me anything about Tesla..he's the man! Edison was a crook and Tesla will forever be forgotten in mainstream history.

As far as your triple burger....Im rolling with metabolic rate...not bitter melon!
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Cant tell me anything about Tesla..he's the man! Edison was a crook and Tesla will forever be forgotten in mainstream history.

As far as your triple burger....Im rolling with metabolic rate...not bitter melon!
like i said before, one of the side effects of diabetes is obesity, look it up on the net..... no matter how fast or slow is your metabolism, the problem comes from eating all the calories which gets converted in sugars. For normal people sugar gets converted into energy and partially burned off that way, but for diabetic people, our system doesnt process the sugars correctly and it get stored as fat, thats the main reason for obesity for diabetics, metabolic rate has nothing to do with it, it is a kidney/pancreas deficiency/failure.
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The next miracle tree is called Moringa! Anyone that gets cramps due to dehydration from riding in the hot summer heat should look into it. One little Moringa leaf has more potassium/magnesium than 5 bananas! Another great natural product you wont see big pharmaceutical companies or FDA talk about it!
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like i said before, one of the side effects of diabetes is obesity, look it up on the net..... no matter how fast or slow is your metabolism, the problem comes from eating all the calories which gets converted in sugars. For normal people sugar gets converted into energy and partially burned off that way, but for diabetic people, our system doesnt process the sugars correctly and it get stored as fat, thats the main reason for obesity for diabetics, metabolic rate has nothing to do with it, it is a kidney/pancreas deficiency/failure.
Allright....get me some pills. Im in.
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Thats the spirit Jeff, you will feel the difference in less than 90 days! I will give you the details at our next meet!
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Good times! A few of us stayed till 11:15 and shared old moto stories...

On the way home down 59 I got lit up and stopped by FB County for some open throttle testing I was performing on a big open gap in traffic.... that is a story I will have to tell a few of you next time I see ya....
11:15? glad u had a good time! it's always fun to get together on a wed night and eat together as a group.
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