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Old 03-28-2007, 06:36 PM   #1
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Kids and Racing

Me and my wife have discussed this several times. If you look many of the younger athletes in any number of sports, but especially motorsports. The parents push the kids to excel and become champions. I think with motorsports there are more barriers to entry than others. How many 4 year kids go out and buy there first motocross bike? But at 4 years old a kid can easily decide to thats he wants to play t-ball and start working towards that.

In motocross or roadracing it's hard to be successful and not have parents that sit on their . Who is going to buy the bike, drive all across the county, work on the bike, pay for training? Look at any of the top athletes in any sport and their parents were a MAJOR factor in them being champions. Look at the Hayden clan, Colin Edwards and his dad, Rossi & his dad, this Steve Bonsey Kid, Tiger Woods, Elena Myers, the Williams sisters, Bubba Stewart.

What are your thoughts on this?
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If the parents and the kid both enjoy doing whatever it is, then they should strive to be the best.
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my thoughts are...............you going to 4/7 or what! j/k
Young riders are more "family" oriented activities that require a mentoring kinda program.......with out it there is no way the kid can even compete. Plus it might be more economical in a sense that if one of the parent actively participates then to add on a child is not as expensive as someone who is starting off from scratch.
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i wish my parents were richer and more talented ..
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I didn't get when I was a kid either. My parents got me what I needed and not what I wanted. Two pairs of shoes every school year till I graduated HS. One at the start of school, and dress shoes for x-mas. Every f---ing year.

I could imagine if I asked for a dirt bike.
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i had stuff but ill be if i ever got any support from either of them.
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I grew up riding dirt bikes....didn't get anything nice to race till I could afford to buy it myself.

I bought my son a Beta Pro 50cc 2-stroke dirtbike year before last for Christmas, its just like the KTM kids Adventure series bikes. He hasn't ridden yet. He has a 90cc 4wheeler too, he rode that a BUNCH but hasn't lately. One of the other dad's in our neighborhood mentioned getting his son into riding motocross and my son and his are friends. Maybe that will spark some interest.

If my son wants to ride, great....if not, well I guess I'll be selling the bike before too long since he'll be outgrowing it soon. I know when I was his age I would have killed to have the bike I got for him.
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i got 5 across the eye every time i asked for anything.
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Old 03-28-2007, 07:43 PM   #9
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Me and my wife have discussed this several times. If you look many of the younger athletes in any number of sports, but especially motorsports. The parents push the kids to excel and become champions. I think with motorsports there are more barriers to entry than others. How many 4 year kids go out and buy there first motocross bike? But at 4 years old a kid can easily decide to thats he wants to play t-ball and start working towards that.

In motocross or roadracing it's hard to be successful and not have parents that sit on their . Who is going to buy the bike, drive all across the county, work on the bike, pay for training? Look at any of the top athletes in any sport and their parents were a MAJOR factor in them being champions. Look at the Hayden clan, Colin Edwards and his dad, Rossi & his dad, this Steve Bonsey Kid, Tiger Woods, Elena Myers, the Williams sisters, Bubba Stewart.

What are your thoughts on this?

Sounds a lot like gymnastics! My kid worksout 4 to 6 days a week 20+ hours a week year round! And guess who spends all those days at the gym with him. He loves the sport, but he also needs us to kick him in the behind sometimes when he gets lazy! Anything worth doing is gonna take work!
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i think its a good idea until the point it becomes too serious and the parents take the fun out of it
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You should be glad for what you have and alive. Wait until you have kids and they tell you that.
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I didn't get when I was a kid either. My parents got me what I needed and not what I wanted. Two pairs of shoes every school year till I graduated HS. One at the start of school, and dress shoes for x-mas. Every f---ing year.

I could imagine if I asked for a dirt bike.
Ungrateful are we?
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I don't know if it pertains to motorsports, skateboarding, football, art or science but I believe it comes down to providing opportunity and then fully supporting them when they latch on to something that interests them. I don't have kids so maybe I am clueless as well but this is how it will happen in my house when it is my turn.
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You should be glad for what you have and alive. Wait until you have kids and they tell you that.
im am grateful i made it out alive... and i do have a child and i at least try to be more involved more than i can say for my parents
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My dad had plans to start doing trackdays with me this summer to try and get me into road racing while i was still young, but called him up and plans got cancelled.. I dream to still be able to race someday, but its hard to work your way up alone
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live my life then try to tell me that. i'm grateful for everything, yet reality remains reality.
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My dad had plans to start doing trackdays with me this summer to try and get me into road racing while i was still young, but called him up and plans got cancelled.. I dream to still be able to race someday, but its hard to work your way up alone
All you need to do is make a serious decission if you want to road race. You already have bikes and there are plenty of people who would be more than willing to help someone as young as you and in your position.
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My dad had plans to start doing trackdays with me this summer to try and get me into road racing while i was still young, but called him up and plans got cancelled.. I dream to still be able to race someday, but its hard to work your way up alone
Cameron, a great start would be to jump into TMGP for you, you're young and have lots to learn, as do we all. Like moody said, there are tons of us(people) who would be more than willing to help you out, for most of us it's too late to start doing anything seriously. It's just gonna take some money that's it. CMRA has a new Ninja 250 race class this year, you already have the bike, so you are $3500 ahead of the game already. That would be a great start. Let us know if we can help you out. .
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I don't know if it pertains to motorsports, skateboarding, football, art or science but I believe it comes down to providing opportunity and then fully supporting them when they latch on to something that interests them. I don't have kids so maybe I am clueless as well but this is how it will happen in my house when it is my turn.
+1.......I think too often parents push kids into doing what THEY (the parent) like, and sooner or later the kid say's "Oh no".
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Me and my wife have discussed this several times. If you look many of the younger athletes in any number of sports, but especially motorsports. The parents push the kids to excel and become champions. I think with motorsports there are more barriers to entry than others. How many 4 year kids go out and buy there first motocross bike? But at 4 years old a kid can easily decide to thats he wants to play t-ball and start working towards that.

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What are your thoughts on this?
I don't care what people say..I'm gonna force my kids to chase my dreams. I could'nt be anything big in motorcycling (think WSBK or MotoGP) - coz i lacked talent, support & time, i started way to late.

I'm gonna make sure i get married/or not but have kids from an Italian, a Spanish, a German & an Aussie wifey/girl friend.

That's the majority of MotoGP riders, - i figure with that kind of pool and training and support from ages 3-4, atleast one of them will make it to atleast AMA :laughing6

Now someone go find me those nationalities girls..
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