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Old 07-26-2013, 07:20 AM   #21
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He quickly caught up to me and 7cain pulled over as soon as he flipped his lights on.
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Old 07-26-2013, 07:28 AM   #22
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Good for him standing up for whats right it sucks his family will suffer because of it.
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Back in 03', I used to date (and live with) a State Trooper out of Tx City... She DEFINITELY had "undocumented" quotas... and not just for tickets... She was expected to bring in a certain amount of DWIs, drug stops/seizures, and ofcourse tickets.... The big one were the drug seizures. He Supervisor (SGT) was a complete head, he hated having women in the dept, he HATED sport bikes and constantly had marks out for sport bike contacts..

When she would turn in "Warnings" as opposed to tickets, she would often be questioned.... Warnings are not state revenue.

She couldn't stand the whole thing, especially the Supervisor, she eventually got out and went to work for the FBI...

I was privy to a lot of behind the scenes info about the Troopers and law enforcement in general... Not ALL of what the general public believes is true about law enforcement (the negative stuff)... but a LOT of it is....

Its all about the revenue..... And "Professional Courtesy" runs rampant in their circles.
I know a couple of Troopers from other parts of the State and they have told me that their primary duties are traffic enforcement/drug seizures, but none have ever said anything about having to have xx actual tix. Sounds like her Sgt was just in a measuring contest, and was loosing to a female...lol

The professional courtesy is not as rampant as you would think; Ive known LEOs who have been written tix and arrested. And DPS doesn't give a who you are....which I actually have no problem with.....
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Officers meeting - "It is your duty as an officer to bring in some, or ALOT of vehicle citations. Anyone not doing so will be up for review."
While a supervisor can say "your not writing a lot of citations compared to other officers" it's the same as working in a factory and your productivity is down. It means your off not doing your job and being lazy. Supervisors can't check what every officer does in person all the time so what do they check? Citations and arrest also crash investigations. Civilians just don't like it bc a cop doing his job costs them money.
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Old 07-26-2013, 09:27 PM   #28
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While a supervisor can say "your not writing a lot of citations compared to other officers" it's the same as working in a factory and your productivity is down. It means your off not doing your job and being lazy. Supervisors can't check what every officer does in person all the time so what do they check? Citations and arrest also crash investigations. Civilians just don't like it bc a cop doing his job costs them money.
Cops in general regardless of work rate costs them money.
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While a supervisor can say "your not writing a lot of citations compared to other officers" it's the same as working in a factory and your productivity is down. It means your off not doing your job and being lazy. Supervisors can't check what every officer does in person all the time so what do they check? Citations and arrest also crash investigations. Civilians just don't like it bc a cop doing his job costs them money.
Yeah, it cost me a ton of money when, after some burglar put a pistol to my head, the responding officer has continued stopping by and checking on me and my coworkers to make sure there arent anymore crackheads hanging around our job site. that pig, I pay his salary.
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Yeah, it cost me a ton of money when, after some burglar put a pistol to my head, the responding officer has continued stopping by and checking on me and my coworkers to make sure there arent anymore crackheads hanging around our job site. that pig, I pay his salary.
Wait what? Lol I can't tell if this is sarcastic or not
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The latter part, yes, the former part, no.
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The professional courtesy is not as rampant as you would think; Ive known LEOs who have been written tix and arrested. And DPS doesn't give a who you are....which I actually have no problem with.....
Depends on the violation.

If you're out trolling for bigger violations and you stop a cop, chances are you're stopping the wrong guy. So you're going to let the cop go for that minor violation like you would anyone else. Like DPS stopped me for not signalling lane change a couple months ago. He was trolling for DWI's, and I wasn't, he let me go on the minor charge.

Although I am one of those who have arrested a cop on a minor violation traffic stop. Could smell weed, made me do a double take. Saw drug residue in plain sight... pot seeds on the floor. Pulled him out of his vehicle, did a shakedown of the vehicle and found the stash, which included chemicals. Adios, MF.
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Although I am one of those who have arrested a cop on a minor violation traffic stop. Could smell weed, made me do a double take. Saw drug residue in plain sight... pot seeds on the floor. Pulled him out of his vehicle, did a shakedown of the vehicle and found the stash, which included chemicals. Adios, MF.
But I thought drugs where bad, mkay, no way an officer of the law could ..... well, I guess he did, and good for you for getting him off the streets.

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No problem.

I think most cops are decent people. However, in cases where direct or indirect pressure is applied for quotas even decent people may fold. The two quickest ways to silence any man his to threaten is financial safety net and/or public shame. It took a lot of spine to speak up. He risked it all knowing the possibility of never being hired as an officer anywhere and retaliation for being a whistle blower.

It is increasingly clear in a debt ridden environment that cities/states will see law enforcement as becoming a more valuable revenue generation stream and treat it as such. In such an environment, the interests and safety of the people will be the first casualty by becoming a secondary side issue.
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If i have my together, registration, inspection and insurance... and i am obeying the law... quota existing or not, is not something I get concerned about.
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If i have my together, registration, inspection and insurance... and i am obeying the law... quota existing or not, is not something I get concerned about.
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Either I've got a freakin' guardian angel whispering in the police's ear, or most people who complain about cops are just "doing it wrong." Not too long ago I was in my highly modified Trans Am at bike night, and get pulled over as I'm turning on to the 610 feeder off Shepherd. I thought the first cop was acting like a total when he got me out of the car, opened the hood, then threatened me with 3 emissions-related violations (all technically valid at that time), as well as exhibition of acceleration, and told me to walk around the back of the car and explain what he told me to the other officer. After the other officer checked me for drugs (I had my tobacco pipe sitting out in the center console) and a 5-10 minute conference in the car, they let me go with a warning, even ignoring my inspection that (at the time) was 4 months out.

I'm guessing that, as stated before, they were looking for DWI and the conversations and relay of information was to get me talking and make sure I wasn't drunk. After nearly being hit several times on the highways by people who are apparently drunk, I am appreciative of the effort to crack down on those who are actually dangerous.
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