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Old 07-24-2013, 07:25 PM   #1
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buying a bike but title is from 2 owners ago.

The guy who owns it now signed the title but never put it in his name. What do I have to do to get it in my name? I don't mind going to the court house etc.
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Old 07-24-2013, 07:42 PM   #2
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Call xpert title. They can do it. Nothing you can do by yourself except pretend it doesn't have title and get a bonded one, which sucks and is more expensive than xpert do it
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Id avoid like the plague unless you verify it aint hot, its a great deal, and itll be a track .
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I don't buy from people who do that. Too much risk involved. You should call the Texas DMV and check the VIN and title records if you do plan to buy from them.

I steer clear away from people who's name isn't on the title. For example, I was helping my girlfriend's dad look for a truck. Found a good one but when he brought the title out, it was a certified copy under the original owner's name. I called TxDMV, did a VIN check, which was good, but when I mentioned certified copy of title, she told me that a certified copy was never made.

Too much hassle to deal with these sellers. Wait for another one to come by, other legitimate paperwork.
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As long as the original owner is willing to sign something or change the date, the only problem you're going to have it getting it registered for any logical amount of money... We made the mistake of waiting one time and the cost was astounding. It's not worth it.
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Wow. buy it. If the vin is clean youre good man... get a good deal? Then yes itll be worth it, it seriously is not that hard to get a bonded title.
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oh here this might help, one of the other members here posted this a little while back

http://www.motohouston.com/forums/sh...t=bonded+title
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You have to send a registered letter to the original owner with the some form. If the original owner doesn't respond in a certain amount of time. The court will sign the title over to you. This happened to me. I bought the bike from a guy who was just flipping the bike. He signed the back of the title, but the title wasn't in his name. Lucky the original owner got my letter and signed the form for me.
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Wow. buy it. If the vin is clean youre good man... get a good deal? Then yes itll be worth it, it seriously is not that hard to get a bonded title.
Did this with my CBR a couple years ago since the title was from what I was told was the owner before the previous owner. Just paid $100 to a bond company after the VIN came back clear then took the papers downtown, and paid registration fees. After 2 years you can get the full title in your name. No prob, did it all in one afternoon.
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I've bought cars like that before and seen it done as well. the seller knows he;s not keeping the car so he gets the original owner to sign the title, but leave the date blank. you then would buy it, fill in your name, put the date, and at that point it's like you bought it from the original seller without the middle man.

there is a legal term for it that i forget but it's also illegal to do it. that doesn't stop most people
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.... call Xpert title and for a couple hundred bucks they will go to court and get it changed to your name. It's really pretty easy.
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I have a scooter that has this problem. I went to the County Tax Assessors office and was told I needed to request a title hearing with the court. I was told it's $35 to apply. You have to get it insured, inspected and provide two photos of the bike one being a photo of the VIN number.

I have yet to do this so I don't know if it will be just $35 or more than that.

Just go to the tax office where you pay your vehicle registration and ask a clerk what you need to do. They should know since this is a common problem.
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OR....


.... call Xpert title and for a couple hundred bucks they will go to court and get it changed to your name. It's really pretty easy.

Do you work for this company? You keep advising people to pay for something that they can do themselves for free (minus what their time is worth), as stated above, you draw up an affadavit notraize it and send it (along with any other DMV paperwork) to the original owner, if he does not respond in 30 days then you proceed with the registration. its done every day, even though its not the right way to handle things.

OP if its worth it to you, just have the original owner register the bike and notify him that its illegal to sell a bike in the state of texas without a) a title and b) title in your name.

If they give you some noob like YA RIGHT I DO THIS ALL THE TIME see below:

Transportation Code Section 501.152 http://ftp.txdmv.gov/pub/txdot-info/...l_book_451.pdf

(a) Except as provided by this section, a person commits an offense if the
person:
(1) sells, offers to sell, or offers as security for an obligation a motor
vehicle registered in this state; and
(2) does not possess the title receipt or certificate of title for the vehicle.
(b) It is not a violation of this section for the beneficial owner of a vehicle to sell
or offer to sell a vehicle without having possession of the certificate of title
to the vehicle if the sole reason he or she does not have possession of the
certificate of title is that the title is in the possession of a lienholder who has
not complied with the terms of Section 501.115(a) of this code.
No person in this state may offer for sale any motor vehicle registered out of state
without having in his or her possession a title or registration receipt if the motor
vehicle is from a non title state.
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If you're going this route, negotiate the price down for the paperwork you will have to do.
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...or accept that it's already only $1200 for a perfectly running bike that was rated one of the best handling bikes.
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Do you work for this company? You keep advising people to pay for something that they can do themselves for free (minus what their time is worth), as stated above, you draw up an affadavit notraize it and send it (along with any other DMV paperwork) to the original owner, if he does not respond in 30 days then you proceed with the registration. its done every day, even though its not the right way to handle things.

OP if its worth it to you, just have the original owner register the bike and notify him that its illegal to sell a bike in the state of texas without a) a title and b) title in your name.

If they give you some noob like YA RIGHT I DO THIS ALL THE TIME see below:

Transportation Code Section 501.152 http://ftp.txdmv.gov/pub/txdot-info/...l_book_451.pdf

(a) Except as provided by this section, a person commits an offense if the
person:
(1) sells, offers to sell, or offers as security for an obligation a motor
vehicle registered in this state; and
(2) does not possess the title receipt or certificate of title for the vehicle.
(b) It is not a violation of this section for the beneficial owner of a vehicle to sell
or offer to sell a vehicle without having possession of the certificate of title
to the vehicle if the sole reason he or she does not have possession of the
certificate of title is that the title is in the possession of a lienholder who has
not complied with the terms of Section 501.115(a) of this code.
No person in this state may offer for sale any motor vehicle registered out of state
without having in his or her possession a title or registration receipt if the motor
vehicle is from a non title state.

I don't work for them, but I have gone through both routes (private dealings with the court and Xpert), and Xpert is SOOOOO much easier.

Instead of several weeks and lots of paperwork, it's like 2 sheets of paper and a couple of days. For me, it's worth the extra $100-150. Since you are likely saving a few hundred bucks buying a bike this title issue anyways, why not go the easy way? I'd rather not deal with the hassle/time away from work. To each their own.
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Guy ended up wanting more for it.
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