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Old 07-24-2013, 09:41 AM   #1
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So I was wondering, how much do you guys work on your bikes and at what point do you say "Ok, it needs to go to the stealership now"..

I'm wanting to start doing most of the servicing myself, but I'm not exactly mechanically inclined.. so I was just wondering what the comfort level is in average for most riders
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Old 07-24-2013, 09:43 AM   #2
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Depends on the bike. Some are a to work on
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I can do most basic maintenance at home.

My tools and space are limited, so some of the more involved processes go to Motorcycles Unlimited.

Changing tires and suspension work always go to Patrick. I dont have the facilities to do those right.
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The way I look at it, if its something I'm not too sure about or something I cant afford to break, I send it off.

everything else, Ill try first....most of the time. Which, also, it depends on the time frame I have to work with. Sometimes its just worth it to pay someone else to do it.
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Oil change, filter change, clutches, brakes can be easily done with simple tools, anything that involves opening up the engine i take it to a certified mechanic.
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stealership? I figure that someone who does what i do not want to do, or can not do, has earned their money.
Does the guy who pays you for what you do think of you as a theif, or someone who earned his money?
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stealership? I figure that someone who does what i do not want to do, or can not do, has earned their money.
Does the guy who pays you for what you do think of you as a theif, or someone who earned his money?
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I'm good with full motor tear down and rebuild while drinking off the keg in the garage. If you are not mech inclined you are better off paying. Its usually cheaper in the long run than messing up doing it yourself
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I'm good with full motor tear down and rebuild while drinking off the keg in the garage.
I'm planning a rebuild soon, I'll bring the keg?
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stealership? I figure that someone who does what i do not want to do, or can not do, has earned their money.
Does the guy who pays you for what you do think of you as a theif, or someone who earned his money?
I've seen them take advantage of customer ignorance numerous times in an attempt to take as much money as possible from you.. even to the point where they will find any excuse to void warranties, or at times, not even make mention of recalls and still charge for work that should have been free..

I'm not saying that this is the norm, or that they're always trying to take advantage but after being on the receiving end myself, the name "stealership" stuck..
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but after being on the receiving end myself, the name "stealership" stuck..
Then why ask the question?
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Then why ask the question?
So as to have a better idea of where most folks draw the line and bend over
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So as to have a better idea of where most folks draw the line and bend over
oh, drama, good call
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I've seen them take advantage of customer ignorance numerous times in an attempt to take as much money as possible from you.. even to the point where they will find any excuse to void warranties, or at times, not even make mention of recalls and still charge for work that should have been free..

I'm not saying that this is the norm, or that they're always trying to take advantage but after being on the receiving end myself, the name "stealership" stuck..
sorry that happened to you. Me personally, well I have been riding over 50 years, I have no clue how many new bikes I have purchased in addition to all the used bikes. I currently own 10 bikes ( I think, I would have to count) and have never had any experience like that. I have bought bikes in california, arizona, washington and texas... no dealer any where i have ever been did any of the things you talked about...I understand differences of opinion, but out right theft...they would not stay in business...some folks just get off when they up and the other guy won't cover it...
and trying to make as much money as they can... well, i never knew anyone in business who did not try that... never knew anyone who went into business to break even.
The dealers in Houston that i have bought bikes from have never treated my in anyway near that, and there have been a few...
Northwest Honda
Pasdena Honda
Stubbs on Telephone
Stubbs on SW Freeway
Republic Harley
Mancuso
These are the shops here that I can remember buying new bikes from and several independant shops that i have bought used bikes from...some i have forgotten for the moment...I am not calling bullshit on what you said, just pointing out it is the exception rather than the rule. With that in mind, the term stealership just makes you sound petty.
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Im not a mechanic. However I enjoy doing as much as I can...fuel filter, clutch and eberything else..not cause I don't want to go to dealership but to learn more about the bike...so if I have to go to dealership I can pretty much save them time..its kind of helping them out. They do appreciate it..because they arebusy...just my two cents ..
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Basic maintenance - spark plugs, air filter, oil change, coolant drain and fill, and whatever I think I can do, I do it myself.

It all depends on your comfort level. Get a hold of a manual for your bike and see how things are done. Youtube helps as well. If you feel like you can't do it, take it out and request for that service done alone. If mechanic points out other things to you, make note of it and decide whether it is something you can DIY, have them fix it then, or later.

Keep in mind that a lot of DIY require specific tools, and if you don't have the tool on hand, it'll complicate things. I know I get off when I don't have a tool and try to MacGyver my way through it. I've learned that if you don't have the proper tool, it will waste time and energy. Better to work on it when the auto parts store are open. Don't frustrate yourself - go and buy/borrow the tool necessary to get the job done.
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