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Old 07-05-2013, 09:14 AM   #41
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Old 07-05-2013, 09:17 AM   #42
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Old 07-05-2013, 09:40 AM   #43
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Old 07-05-2013, 10:06 AM   #44
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Old 07-05-2013, 10:32 AM   #45
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I have no clue how all these people seem to manage going over the barriers. Wtf? I don't understand.


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Old 07-05-2013, 10:52 AM   #46
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I have no clue how all these people seem to manage going over the barriers. Wtf? I don't understand.


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Old 07-05-2013, 11:00 AM   #47
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I have no clue how all these people seem to manage going over the barriers. Wtf? I don't understand.


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as lurch explains, then compare the height of your average barricade wall to the rider height and seat position...

watch a Mc race where the rider 'high sides' and consider the energy/forces generated.. any object that quickly/seriously reduces/stop the movement of the bike essentially puts the rider on the wrong side of a small catapult.
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Old 07-05-2013, 11:14 AM   #48
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Anyone that wants to know more about the typical rail. I'm don't know what railing was in that area, but this one is pretty standard.

ftp://ftp.dot.state.tx.us/pub/txdot-...e/rlstd014.pdf

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Was it a group ride to/from PP1 with his MC? If so, I hope they stuck around for him.
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Old 07-05-2013, 11:27 AM   #49
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Such a tragic accident, RIP rider.
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Speed exceeds skill set; target fixation = go where you look.
I agree

If you look at that ramp (59N to 610S) on google earth you can clearly see it is a decreasing radius corner. So easy to get in to the corner to hot. Rider gets in hot on a decresing radius corner and then he sees he way to hot. In his mind he thinks he's already turned in and leaned over as far as he can go. So he just target fixates on what he is going to hit or grabs to much front brake and tucks the front end. But in reality there is a lot more to go before he will will loose grip. It is that survival reaction mode that gets us when we panic. Likely if the rider looks through the corner and turns in a little more he could make it.
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It's not just rider skill that kills. A friend of a friend (chadmod) died because a bed post was on such a turn/overpass...

I don't do routes or the forest or SMR. I love overpasses and stuff like this just makes me want to give up street riding completely.
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Old 07-05-2013, 11:54 AM   #52
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It's not just rider skill that kills. A friend of a friend (chadmod) died because a bed post was on such a turn/overpass...
Circumstances, speed?

At posted speeds, you should be able to easily avoid something mid-corner.

Years back another PP1 rider hit a board mid-corner and was launched. But he was hauling.

Doesn't matter... 610 nights or backroads hauling. If you run the road like a racetrack without clearing the roads first, you are rolling the dice.
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Old 07-05-2013, 12:04 PM   #53
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If you look at that ramp (59N to 610S) on google earth you can clearly see it is a decreasing radius corner.
There's a knarly crack that will catch you off guard, but then again I have crappy suspension. Don't think it has a factor since it's early in the turn.
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Old 07-05-2013, 09:56 PM   #55
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We all know the risks we take every time we throw our leg over. Most likely riding outside his capacities...obviously....
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Circumstances, speed?

At posted speeds, you should be able to easily avoid something mid-corner.

Years back another PP1 rider hit a board mid-corner and was launched. But he was hauling.

Doesn't matter... 610 nights or backroads hauling. If you run the road like a racetrack without clearing the roads first, you are rolling the dice.
As was he....sadly missed....should have kept it to the track
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Old 07-05-2013, 10:08 PM   #57
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RIP, those ramps are not worth taking the risk on, the barriers don't prevent riders from flying off their bikes and plunging several feet towards the ground.
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Old 07-05-2013, 10:45 PM   #58
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RIP.....I made some bad decisions near there less than 15 minutes prior. If he left from pp1 I probably saw him and had no idea
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