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Old 06-27-2013, 09:00 AM   #41
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Perfect example; watch the end of the video I posted of Longdraw on his ZX10 getting introduced to the Dragon.

It is a good habit to get into; not just the eyes but turn the entire head and upper body into the corner, and look as far as you can down the road.

Looking farther also "slows" down the road in your perception.

Only drawback for street riders is you may miss a hazard in the road up closer. So you really need to train your eyes to scan from the distance back to in front of you and then back out.

If you practice keeping your eyes moving, and never focus for more than a beat on any particular spot, you will find that ignoring oncoming cars, yellow line, guardrails, etc. will become much easier. You will also amaze yourself with what you start noticing.


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Perfect example; watch the end of the video I posted of Longdraw on his ZX10 getting introduced to the Dragon.

It is a good habit to get into; not just the eyes but turn the entire head and upper body into the corner, and look as far as you can down the road.

Looking farther also "slows" down the road in your perception.

Only drawback for street riders is you may miss a hazard in the road up closer. So you really need to train your eyes to scan from the distance back to in front of you and then back out.

If you practice keeping your eyes moving, and never focus for more than a beat on any particular spot, you will find that ignoring oncoming cars, yellow line, guardrails, etc. will become much easier. You will also amaze yourself with what you start noticing.
After watching the TOTW video .. watching your buddy he was twisting ,,, head was not following his body. Also around 4:46 in the video he burped the throttle in the corner got wiggly but corrected. Looks like burped the throttle which made the bike stand up when he went down. Are my observations correct?
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Looks like burped the throttle which made the bike stand up when he went down. Are my observations correct?
No. He stood the bike up with the brakes. Do you mean "blipping" the throttle?
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No. He stood the bike up with the brakes. Do you mean "blipping" the throttle?
Yeah blipping ..... man that happened fast too .. so did he just tap the brake because he was going wide?
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Yeah blipping ..... man that happened fast too .. so did he just tap the brake because he was going wide?
You'll have to ask him. He probably thought he was going too fast to make the turn. Had he stayed in the turn, he would have made it.
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Yeah blipping ..... man that happened fast too .. so did he just tap the brake because he was going wide?
Looks to me like he did, which is exactly opposite of what you want to do. Like Bevo said, applying the brakes in lean can make the bike want to stand up. A little more pressure on the left bar and he would have made that just fine, but it happens.
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If you watch in slow mo, he is all good until he picks his head up and looks at the ditch. At that point he was 3/4 of the way thru the turn, and had plenty of room and decent body position.
Then he picks the bike up and hits the brakes.

Complete brain fart and he said he was getting a little tired prior to that.
If you watch earlier he is shaking his hands periodically, which is sign of griping too tight and also too much weight on his wrists.

The bottom line and lesson for the day is: look where you want to go.
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I never assumed jumping on a bike was going to be easy but there is so much little stuff that can put ya down. Learning every time I go out.
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Old 06-27-2013, 11:01 AM   #49
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I never assumed jumping on a bike was going to be easy but there is so much little stuff that can put ya down. Learning every time I go out.
It all comes down to basics; learn them and make them subconscious habits. If you try to think and act, you are way behind the curve.

Relax
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never coast, add throttle from the point you enter the turn

Beyond that it's fine tuning and getting better at the above


The single, number one most important thing in my mind for a street rider is riding enough to make countersteering a second nature, thoughtless act.

I can't even list how many times someone turned straight into something they were trying to avoid, because their car steering habits kicked in.

After that, next in line is look where you want to go, no matter what.
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If you watch in slow mo, he is all good until he picks his head up and looks at the ditch. At that point he was 3/4 of the way thru the turn, and had plenty of room and decent body position.
Then he picks the bike up and hits the brakes.

Complete brain fart and he said he was getting a little tired prior to that.
If you watch earlier he is shaking his hands periodically, which is sign of griping too tight and also too much weight on his wrists.

The bottom line and lesson for the day is: look where you want to go.
Maybe his tummy ran out of pie
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why why would someone just dump something in a machine without reading instructions ...
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why why would someone just dump something in a machine without reading instructions ...
The writing is pretty small.
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why why would someone just dump something in a machine without reading instructions ...
I suggest you direct your inquiry to one Sweet Brown
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My next question:

Are you a pusher or a puller? Of the bars...
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Had to think about it ... But push down how would you pull down?
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Had to think about it ... But push down how would you pull down?
Some people pull the bars, some push. Pushing gives you more control in an emergency since it pushes you back into the saddle.

You want to avoid pushing down and push forward. It's covered in TOTW.
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A noob reading this would be like Too much info. I just do it lol
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