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Old 03-20-2007, 03:53 PM   #1
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Looks like there the trauma wards are tired of seeing people come in with head injuries and there must be a shortage of morticians or something because our senators and representatives have some new legislation coming up for vote. If the bill passes, It looks like now you will need $150,000 in insurance and a MSF to ride helmet-less. Not that big of a problem for most educated individuals though. The 2 new bills are HB 727 and SB 1368.
The House Bill 727 basically makes the helmet law come back into affect. While the Senate Bill makes the requirements higher and the fines stiffer.

Personally, I think that they should pass a law stating that medical treatment will not be performed on individuals that choose to not wear a seatbelt or a helmet.

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Old 03-20-2007, 03:54 PM   #2
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wont affect me. When im on the street the lid is always on
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Old 03-20-2007, 03:58 PM   #3
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Personally, I think that they should pass a law stating that medical treatment will not be performed on individuals that choose to not wear a seatbelt or a helmet.
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well good thing my lid is always on,


I personally always thought there should be a law for people to wear helmets, kind of like the seatbelt law.


always thought of it as being wierd that a law was never set. i get tired oif seeing people riding down the road with their helmet hanging from their helmet lock, i mean you know they own one, why not wear it???

if its uncomfortable spend the extra money or get one that fits your head!
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wont affect me. When im on the street the lid is always on
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Old 03-20-2007, 04:26 PM   #6
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I was just forwarded a copy of a gov study that concludes

1) motorcycle helmets have no statistically significant effect on the probability of fatality

(2) helmets reduce the severity of head injuries; and

(3) past a critical impact speed [13 MPH], helmets increase the severity of neck injuries.

http://www.accidentreconstruction.co...Helmet_Use.pdf


Not groundbreaking news by any means but once you get past the stats lesson, it was a good read.
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Personally, I think that they should pass a law stating that medical treatment will not be performed on individuals that choose to not wear a seatbelt or a helmet.
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totally agree

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totally agree
I don't agree with the seat belt.
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I was just forwarded a copy of a gov study that concludes

1) motorcycle helmets have no statistically significant effect on the probability of fatality

(2) helmets reduce the severity of head injuries; and

(3) past a critical impact speed [13 MPH], helmets increase the severity of neck injuries.

http://www.accidentreconstruction.co...Helmet_Use.pdf


Not groundbreaking news by any means but once you get past the stats lesson, it was a good read.


WOW thats very interesting. thank you for posting that up!
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Old 03-20-2007, 04:34 PM   #9
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Old 03-20-2007, 08:17 PM   #10
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i dont believe in a helmet law. i FIRMLY believe EVERYONE should wear a helmet, but i dont think the govt. should make us wear one. i, for one, dont even ride two blocks with out my lid. i say let the morons kill themselves off, just leaves more open roads for us.

you call it stupidity. i call it culling the heard.
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Old 03-20-2007, 08:22 PM   #11
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ya even if you have your lid on there still chance you can still die that goes for a car too if you got your seat belt on and you crash there still that chance you could die
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absolutely stupid....the gov't shouldn't have to parent people. If someone does not want to wear a helmet/seat belt...then they shouldnt have too. It's their choice if they want the protection.

Makes no fk'n sense....just another way for the state to make money...thats all it is.
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i dont believe in a helmet law. i FIRMLY believe EVERYONE should wear a helmet, but i dont think the govt. should make us wear one. i, for one, dont even ride two blocks with out my lid. i say let the morons kill themselves off, just leaves more open roads for us.

you call it stupidity. i call it culling the heard.
Thats like saying the government should not make us wear seatbelts. Stupid idea.. helmet law FTMFW!!!
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Thats like saying the government should not make us wear seatbelts. Stupid idea.. helmet law FTMFW!!!

thats exactly right. it IS like saying that. i think it should be the driver's decision as well. JMO.
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thats exactly right. it IS like saying that. i think it should be the driver's decision as well. JMO.
Yes we should be allowed to make most of our own decisions but when it comes to safety and the amount of fatalities unfortuantely most people dont use their own head and neglect safety all together. So the law must enforce it and for a very well reason. Not wearing either a seatbelt in a car nor a helmet on a bike is very dumb and one should be punished for not doing so.
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i say let Darwin take over and pick its fine selection!

seriously i saw some dude on a gsxr with no helmet, black tank top and camo pants today off of nasa rd1 on the way home from work. i could see he was trying his hard to make sure i saw his motorcycle wave cause he did it with his RIGHT HAND!..
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Old 03-20-2007, 08:58 PM   #17
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[QUOTE=andre3k]and

(3) past a critical impact speed [13 MPH], helmets increase the severity of neck injuries.

QUOTE]
add a Neck brace?

still better to have a neck injury than your skull split open on the concrete:eh:
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I think the law is good. Heres an example. You, helmet wearing sane person, goes down sametime, idiot A, no helmet , and go to the hospital. Both need life saving surgery, and goes first, and you die...... harsh but could happen... how would you feel then. My .02
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Statistics always depend on how they are run and interpreted. I am by no means an expert but regression analysis is not perfect - acc. to my last marketing research professor. For that reason, you run different statistical analysis .. which they may have done and concluded they chose this for the report.

Either way, I hear people having a sore neck after a crash (at the track) and I know of one person with a broken vertebra in their neck which is being fixed and except for pain, he is fine.

However, I also heard of people having head injuries (Thorn) who most likely would've died had they not worn a helmet.

I have also seen scratched visors and chipped helmets from crashed and I'd hate to see what the face or head would've looked like without a helmet.

On another note, reports I have read show that most fatalities are head injury in conjunction with other injuries. It is the percentage of body injury altogether. So, I wear gear, backprotector, boots, etc.

So to each their own, but for insurance cost purposes, I would like to see forcing people to do the right thing because apparently, they are not always common sense smart.
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