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Old 06-04-2013, 01:59 PM   #21
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cage? idk id put it around my crotch area though.
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Old 06-04-2013, 02:03 PM   #22
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Use an ice pick. Same outcome but cheaper.
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Old 06-04-2013, 02:12 PM   #23
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Use an ice pick. Same outcome but cheaper.
while he is wearing it?
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Old 06-04-2013, 02:34 PM   #24
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Use an ice pick. Same outcome but cheaper.
Haven't worked with leather much, have ya?
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I used tourch to heat a nail up once, red hot nail burns right through leather.

Ice pick would be better.
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I used tourch to heat a nail up once, red hot nail burns right through leather.
sounds like that would work, but take a lot of patience and time
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I used tourch to heat a nail up once, red hot nail burns right through leather.

Ice pick would be better.
One old shoesmith once showed me the surefire way of testing to see if a particular material is real leather or not. He flicked a BIC and heated up an awl with the flame tip then touched it to the material (at a place that is not cosmetically a problem of course. He told me vinyl and just about all synthetic material will melt at the touch. Leather will not. I've since tried it with soldering iron on a lot of different types of leather, to the same effect.

This is because the meshing fibres in the leather allows it to breathe and vent and the fibers themselves have a much higher melting temp than vinyl. Same reason leather is much preferred for car seating surfaces. Vinyl can get hot enough to burn skin on contact, because it is solid and has no air spaces within it. Leather will get hot to the touch, but it will not burn.
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Um vinyl is also basically plastic. Yes. Its gonna burn
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Old 06-04-2013, 05:29 PM   #29
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jimmy if you go fast enough you wont have to worry about not having any air flow....
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Jimmy..just open your mouth..that way you will get all the perf you need!!!
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jimmy if you go fast enough you wont have to worry about not having any air flow....
i think its the high speed that heats up my suit..
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Not sayin you don't know what you're doing but just a thought.
Like I was saying before, too much perf'ing or holes too big can cause the suit to rip. Not along a seam which already can be a problem, but down through the perf holes.
Adding more holes or making them larger can make the suit weaker in this way. Pretty obvious, I know but here is the thought...

When it's 95degs and 85% humidity it doesn't matter how many or how large the holes are, it's gonna be hot. You could ride naked and it would still be hot. A mesh jacket doesn't really help.
So, is it worth decreasing the structure of your suit just so a little more hot air can blow on you?
I have a fully perf'ed suit and honestly it doesn't feel any cooler than the solid suit I had before.

Not telling you not to do what you want, just be careful with where and how much.

Somebody post up the recent pic of the MH'er standing by the road in his perf'ed leather jacket showing how it ripped across his chest.
I just saw it but don't remember who it was... a white jacket.
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