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Old 06-05-2013, 01:18 PM   #81
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chris only uses the rear brake on his fifty because everything is already compressed.
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chris only uses the rear brake on his fifty because everything is already compressed.
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Cool, maybe you two could go ride with each other. One thing im really going to disagree with is using the rear brake. do not use it at all. stick with using the front brake ONLY. Its not going to help you stop much quicker, get good at emergency braking with the front brake only. Oh and for the lane change, counter steering helps, check out a video on it maybe. practice that.. it'll help you later on as well so if you have to dodge some debris or something.
im going to agree to diagree with you. front brake yes and rear brake usage yes. if used prperly it could be an asset. if on track and you go off rear brake a must. on street in my opinion only my opinion I used rear brake sometimes it is what works for me....
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im going to agree to diagree with you. front brake yes and rear brake usage yes. if used prperly it could be an asset. if on track and you go off rear brake a must. on street in my opinion only my opinion I used rear brake sometimes it is what works for me....
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if i am scared enough, i will use both brakes AND drag my left foot.
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Old 06-05-2013, 02:15 PM   #85
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On the very first day riding on the street, when coming to a stop light I almost freaked out lightly hit the front break and smashed on the rear break. The rear tire screeched to a halt and luckily I didn't fall or anything, but from that moment on I learned how to gauge when to hit the brakes or engine break or cruise to a stop by holding the clutch in.

Just wanted to share this with you guys...
He locks up his rear, the other new rider that posted in the thread said he locked up his rear when he was emergency braking. I have locked up my rear before when I first started riding, I know a few other guys that have locked up their rear as well when they first started riding. The reason i dont think he should be using the rear right now is because he needs to learn to use the front properly and understand where thats where most of the braking power comes from. Especially on sportbikes, after he learns that for sure start adding in the rear brake, but right now if he went out on his bike and he had to use brake hard in a emergency he would end up locking up the rear tire again guarantee it. Thats why i think he should stick to using the front for now

If you know how to use the rear brake then use it, yes it will help you stop a few feet earlier but its going to take seat time for him to learn the front brake first.

I also agree for sure there are other reasons where you can use the rear brake, like if you go off the road/track.
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if i am scared enough, i will use both brakes AND drag my left foot.
This you?

http://www.caradvice.com.au/133461/t...dumbest-video/
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hahah "serious lack of common sense"
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Well I've been super busy with work, school, and life in general. I've read through every post and have come to the conclusion that I'll trust my MSF instructor. There may be more "right" or "efficient" ways of doing things, but the MSF course has been proven to work and that's how I learned.

My route to school/work is literally all straight with very little traffic so I am fine in that regard. I just see the occasional vehicle in the morning. Mostly at intersections though. Most of the time I am on my own in the two lane road.

I feel pretty comfortable with turning except on my home street for some reason. As I said before I'm even afraid of turning on that street in my truck. Since those experiences that I've written about, I haven't locked up my rear break anymore, I use both brakes while lightly tapping on the rear and slowly pulling in the front. Either way I haven't had anymore brake problems, but I do tend to slow down too early though, but I feel like I've almost got it to where I don't slow down too early. It's different when gauging the distance of a car in front of you when on a motorcycle. At leat to me it is. Either way it's better to slow down too early than too late in my book. Its those abrupt changes in velocity of a bike that's dangerous.

One thing that stood out to me that two other members exchanged comments over was coasting (with clutch pulled in) to a stop when getting to a stop or red light. Someone else said that it's better to just shift down gradually just in case SHTF. I I'm going to incorporate that into my driving now. Better to make good habits than break bad ones. Don't remember who mentioned it, but it seems like pretty legit advice.

Anyways thanks for the info and lively debate that went on in here. I got in contact with a few MH members on here that I'll probably ride with soon enough.

Also sorry for the crappy paragraphs, I'm writing this from my phone.
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Just go to an empty lot and practice your braking. I'm fairly new to riding as well, but spent a lot of time in the parking lot. What I do is mark a beginning point for you to brake, then start at 30 mph and see how quick you can brake. Do it over and over again, and you'll know how much pressure to use on your front/rear to brake better each time. Once I felt confortable, I increased my speed by 10 mph and continued on.

I'm glad I did this, because I had to hard brake the other day when a truck decided to pull a last minute left turn. Muscle memory is an amazing thing.

As far as coming to a stop at a red light, you have to anticipate these things ahead of time. If the light just turned red, I would shift down to first and ride the clutch until there is a car stopped behind me. If the light has been red, ride on 2nd gear or higher - all depends on how fast you are going in case the light turns green.

Go practice your turns and braking. It'll become second nature.
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