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Old 06-02-2013, 10:20 PM   #1
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Track Day - Tire Wear (lv1 noob)

Ok so I am thinking about doing a track day soon to get more comfortable with cornering. How hard is a track day on your tires?

I have a 13' Ninja 300 ... first bike .. first track day .. so would be taking it easy unless it just comes natural you never know. If the track is going to be rough on the tires was thinking about picking up an extra set of rims and tires. Now if this is not necessary for the first time .. kewl I will save my $$.

Only have about 600 miles on the factory tires at this point and will probably have a few hundred more by the time I get around to doing this if I can schedule in a day in the next month.
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its not going to be rough on your tires on your first day, especially not on a 300. You will be fine.
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Old 06-02-2013, 10:25 PM   #3
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You won't hurt your street tires in a dozen track days.

The people that are always replacing tires are running really soft race tires at much higher speeds than you're going to hit for your first few track days.

It may come natural, but it's not going to be on day one I promise.
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you'll be fine. we did a whole season on 1 set of tires on a ninja 250. and a 6hr race on shagged out tires. for your first day, don't sweat it.
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Those tires will last a long time. Even if you start dragging elbow out there
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You won't hurt your street tires in a dozen track days.

The people that are always replacing tires are running really soft race tires at much higher speeds than you're going to hit for your first few track days.

It may come natural, but it's not going to be on day one I promise.
+1 Don't worry about your tires. Worry about leaving your ego at home, worry about what questions to ask, worry about listening to your instructors.

You'll be fine. The track is just a twisty road that goes around in a loop. On the day you are there it is NOT a "race" track, just a road. The instructors will help you to find the best way to ride that road.
All the equipment you are required to wear is to help protect incase you make a mistake but you won't...
Your survival skills will keep you safe if you listen to them and leave your ego home.

Your tires will not wear enough for you to be able to notice.
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its not going to be rough on your tires on your first day, especially not on a 300. You will be fine.
Are you saying I will not be moving fast enough to cause friction ...
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Are you saying I will not be moving fast enough to cause friction ...
you're over thinking the situation.

for your first trackday, on your first bike. it is going to be quite a feat for you to override your tires, even if they are stock. if you're purely worried about wearing out your tires because you'll have to buy new ones, don't. if anything, stock tires are not as good as what you'll replace them with anyways.
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Are you saying I will not be moving fast enough to cause friction ...
No he is saying that a 1000cc super sport, in the hands of an experienced rider, can shred a rear tire in one track day.
A 300 in the hands of a novice will not.
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+1 Don't worry about your tires. Worry about leaving your ego at home, worry about what questions to ask, worry about listening to your instructors.

You'll be fine. The track is just a twisty road that goes around in a loop. On the day you are there it is NOT a "race" track, just a road. The instructors will help you to find the best way to ride that road.
All the equipment you are required to wear is to help protect incase you make a mistake but you won't...
Your survival skills will keep you safe if you listen to them and leave your ego home.

Your tires will not wear enough for you to be able to notice.
Cool .. only stupid question is one not asked. Was not sure. Thanks for the feedback.
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No he is saying that a 1000cc super sport, in the hands of an experienced rider, can shred a rear tire in one track day.
A 300 in the hands of a novice will not.
I was just giving him because its fun
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Are you saying I will not be moving fast enough to cause friction ...
Dont worry about him. He thinks more cc's make him faster
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We race with soft compunds on our 250 ninja and we still get a full race season out of ours at full race pace. Youl be fine the big bikes at race pace eats tires not even lvl 2 big bikes really kill tires.

Have fun out there and ask alot of questions your instructors are there to help ya dont forget ..... rubber side down shiney side up
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Old 06-02-2013, 10:38 PM   #15
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not sure how much the sides of your tires are worn, or if they've even touched the road. Let's assume you have chicken strips.
For you first trackday focus on having fun, being smooooooth, and at the end of the day, after you've loaded up in one piece, see if the sides of your tires finally did touch the pavement. you'll be pleasently surprised. And want to come do it again!

That's when all the money spending happens
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You will have a lot of fun! Good luck.
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We race with soft compunds on our 250 ninja and we still get a full race season out of ours at full race pace. Youl be fine the big bikes at race pace eats tires not even lvl 2 big bikes really kill tires.

Have fun out there and ask alot of questions your instructors are there to help ya dont forget ..... rubber side down shiney side up
get outta here with that nonsense!
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We race with soft compunds on our 250 ninja and we still get a full race season out of ours at full race pace. Youl be fine the big bikes at race pace eats tires not even lvl 2 big bikes really kill tires.

Have fun out there and ask alot of questions your instructors are there to help ya dont forget ..... rubber side down shiney side up
Oh I will ask alot of questions ... what I am looking to take out my first track day is allowing myself to come up to curves and not gripping the out of the bar. I want to learn for it to be a fluid natural response. Right now I am like there is a curve coming up and my first thought is dont up. I want to be able to just ride and enjoy it ... have the confidence I am lacking.
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not sure how much the sides of your tires are worn, or if they've even touched the road. Let's assume you have chicken strips.
For you first trackday focus on having fun, being smooooooth, and at the end of the day, after you've loaded up in one piece, see if the sides of your tires finally did touch the pavement. you'll be pleasently surprised. And want to come do it again!

That's when all the money spending happens
I gotta Chicken Expressway. I want the confidence to really get over and take the corner. That is what I lack.
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Oh I will ask alot of questions ... what I am looking to take out my first track day is allowing myself to come up to curves and not gripping the out of the bar. I want to learn for it to be a fluid natural response. Right now I am like there is a curve coming up and my first thought is dont up. I want to be able to just ride and enjoy it ... have the confidence I am lacking.
If youre coming up to turns and youre scared, going in your mind "dont eff up" then you need to slow down to your own pace possibly? But do several track days and that will add confidence for sure.
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