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Old 06-01-2013, 09:38 PM   #1
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Getting close to getting the bike tuned. Wondering if its necessary to have them for this reason?
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Old 06-01-2013, 09:49 PM   #2
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You can just remove the pump, cap the plates and hose clamp them down.


I believe the pump gives faulty numbers.


I got the graves plates and installed them but now reading I think everyone says the Ivans plates actually comes with a resistor plug to completely eliminate the pump.
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I could but I'm wanting to know if it is even necessary. I'm sure he will just pinch the hose when he tunes if I don't put them on, but if it will benefit from keeping them on after the tune ill pick some up.
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I noticed that my backfireing isn't as violent after the plates.

Read that the bike runs cooler as well and can't say this part I'm absolutely sure but today it wasn't as hot when I pulled into my garage as it usually is. Almost 10deg cooler than what I'm use to.
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Want to find out what resistor the Ivans plates comes with or not be so lazy and ohm out the pump when it runs and wire in a resistor so I can lose the dead weight of the pump and clean up the install.
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Found a good suggested resistor to use.

10w20ohms

Will probably make one monday for my bike.
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Pretty sure I don't think I'm going to need the resistor. Don't really care too much about the weight just yet. I have plenty of bike to get used too for the track still. I say that now but when I tear it apart Ill find out I need to lol. So now it is a matter of do I put the plates on for tuning and take them off after tune or keep them on after the tune.
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Why would you want the air pump back on? It does nothing for performance or anything beneficial
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Nor do the block off plates. I just don't want it to effect the tune.
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It shouldn't effect the tune
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It shouldn't effect the tune
Got a second opinion...need a third.
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For my R6 I didn't get any error codes when I installed the plates. If you are going to remove tank/airbox and fiddle around in there clamping etc for a tune you might as well just install the plates while you are at it. It will reduce popping from the exhaust, so leave them on afterwards.
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Thanks for that, but the funny thing is I don't have any popping in it at all. I've just heard that having them installed can give the sniffer false readings and thus a tune. Any legitimacy to that?
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Got a second opinion...need a third.
ok...exactly what Bluewave said. There is your third.

Block off plates are a turnkey solution but why doint you simply cram a large marble in the tube after removing the smog equipment?
Best .05 cent block off plate you will ever use.
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Thanks for that, but the funny thing is I don't have any popping in it at all. I've just heard that having them installed can give the sniffer false readings and thus a tune. Any legitimacy to that?
Okl, different angle.....call the tuner and ask him before going.
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If anything removing the smog equipment and putting plates on might save you a 1 lbs and certainly tidy up under your tank a little
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Agree on the marble. I just plugged mine with a rubber stopper test tube stopper from work. The diameter was just right. Rode like that for a while. When it came time to pull the engine, I installed block off plates for the sole purpose of removing parts that were not needed. With the marble mod done the equipment was pointless and just in the way. Plugging the hole in the air box will need to be done one way or another.
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To answer your original question you dont NEED them. If you just want to remove the clutter of the smog set up then you can remove and block off
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You don't need the plates to delete the pump, you can rig it other ways.

It makes sense to remove it from the system though cause it would give skewed readings at the sniffer if it's purpose is to introduce fresh air into the exhaust.
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Just my $.02- but I HIGHLY recommend putting in the plates.

If your tuner only goes by dyno results, they aren't necessary.

However- 90% of tuners will set a target afr- which will be totally f'd by the AIS.

I know this first hand. My first tune (at a dealership/shop in Houston) with the ais still attached was waaaaay too rich. Had it tuned again (via dyno not afr) and Andy (at metric mc) removed fuel from every spot and made it much, muh smoother, and added 5-7hp throughout the rev range
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