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Old 05-28-2013, 03:09 PM   #1
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Cleaning a motor that's been sitting

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I recently picked up a motor that's been sitting in a garage a few years. I've heard a lot of way to clean the motor before trying to turn it over/hook it up, and I'm wondering who here has some experience in this.
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Old 05-28-2013, 03:23 PM   #2
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Cleaning the outside or starting it ?
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Cleaning the inside of the motor. lol.

Ive heard of using ATF, kerosene, etc.

I just want to make sure everything is clean starting it.
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drain the oil, put new oil in...
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I have hear of using ATF, but never kerosene. I worked for Chrysler for about 5 years, and my bay was next to our engine builder. He always used a little motor oil on the cylinder walls before starting. If the engine has been sitting, its cheap insurance to pull the cylinder head, and lube the cylinder walls with motor oil, and turn the motor over on a stand to make sure everything checks out!
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I have hear of using ATF, but never kerosene. I worked for Chrysler for about 5 years, and my bay was next to our engine builder. He always used a little motor oil on the cylinder walls before starting. If the engine has been sitting, its cheap insurance to pull the cylinder head, and lube the cylinder walls with motor oil, and turn the motor over on a stand to make sure everything checks out!
Thanks, was planning on checking the valves anyways, guess it's only an hour or two more work to pull the head (this is a 600cc).

I've never dealt with a sitting motor and just want to cover the bases. I'm working on a stand-alone engine system (rad/harness/ecu) so it should be pretty easy to test it once satisfied with internal check
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I would drop the oil and filter, replace with new, remove the plugs, squirt a little oil into the bores and turn over the engine by hand a few revolutions before replacing the plugs...
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At least some WD40 shot into the cylinders
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I would drop the oil and filter, replace with new, remove the plugs, squirt a little oil into the bores and turn over the engine by hand a few revolutions before replacing the plugs...

This may be an important point- most of the oil has been drained while sitting.

Also-

you serious about wd-40?
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This may be an important point- most of the oil has been drained while sitting.

Also-

you serious about wd-40?
Doesn't change much, personally I would remove the clutch cover, pull apart the clutch, re soak the fibre plates in oil and reassemble but thats just me
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True about the clutch. Bet all the disks are stuck together
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good point. Keep these ideas coming.

I appreciate all the input
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At least some WD40 shot into the cylinders
WD40 is a water displacer, not a lube.
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WD40 is a water displacer, not a lube.
Think it could free up some stuck rings? We all know what the WD stands for. Thanks
Holy . Look what their own web site says
Did you know...

WD-40 can protect your bike & tools, remove grease, and lubricate locks, hinges, & all moving parts
WD-40 removes paint, gum, rubber cement, grease, grime and more
WD-40 loosens and penetrates rusted or stuck bolts and plumbing joints

What is suggested is pretty common practice
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I'm a big believer in Marvel Mystery Oil. I've read reports of siezed engines with a little poured in the top, let sit over night, free the next day. I'd change the oil and filter, add some mystery to the gas, oil, tranny, and in the top. Run it a few times, drain and replace with fresh pure oil. Then maybe some Sea Foam through the intake till it almost chokes. Let sit, then burn the Sea Foam out. I like Lucas oil as well but have only run that in harley engines.

I usually run a bottle of lucas over 3-4 tanks on my xb12 every couple of months. When I cracked her open recently for this tranny bearing issue it was very clean inside. Pete was really surprised how clean it was and that crosshatching still looked great. I'm actually in the process right now of running a tank of gas and mystery through the baby buell I just rebuilt to break her in.
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hmm I'll have to look into that stuff.

When you say "pour over the top" are you meaning pour into the top end? or once the head is removeD?
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In a pinch WD40 can be a lube, like spit. But it gums up and causes a mess later. I bet it's not a big deal in the cylinder walls since it'll burn off quickly.
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Once you figure out the lube issues consider cranking the engine without spark , or with the plugs out - it will give it a chance to get oil all though it (bearings etc.) before the dynamics of actually running.
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