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Old 05-21-2013, 01:40 PM   #1
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old school no-no

Never ask if you can ride thier bike... it is sort of like asking a man if you can borrow his wife... if he wants you to ride it, he will offer.
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I've been offered and returned the offer during bike repair down-time. I was asked ONCE by a non-rider... I think the look I gave him has prevented him from asking again.
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Never ask if you can ride thier bike... it is sort of like asking a man if you can borrow his wife... if he wants you to ride it, he will offer.
What's wrong with asking to borrow the wife?
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I have tried and tried explaining this to my son when his friends want to ride his dirt bike. No. Don't let people touch your bike. No.

He always let's them, because he doesn't think it matters. A neighborhood officer told me last weekend that in such a case as an under-age kid is riding my motor vehicle - I get the ticket. I'm going to kill that boy.
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I have tried and tried explaining this to my son when his friends want to ride his dirt bike. No. Don't let people touch your bike. No.

He always let's them, because he doesn't think it matters. A neighborhood officer told me last weekend that in such a case as an under-age kid is riding my motor vehicle - I get the ticket. I'm going to kill that boy.
Who paid for your son's bike?
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Nothing, as long as you return her clean and full....
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She'll be full but I can't promise clean
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Proper etiquette is to wait until you are both riding together, say, to lunch. Then ask if your friend would like to try *your* own bike. The inference is unmistakable, but without actually asking. It also allows you friend a way to decline politely, if he would rather not.

Note that I said "your friend"... This only works with between very good friends that know how each other ride.
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Ween. And to be sure, I remind him of this every time he comments that it's HIS dirt bike. I remind him that he's only 15 and everything that's his, I actually own. He can't own anything, because he's a child. He hates that.



I had to threaten to take it away from him if he ever lets another friend ride it.
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Proper etiquette is to wait until you are both riding together, say, to lunch. Then ask if your friend would like to try *your* own bike. The inference is unmistakable, but without actually asking. It also allows you friend a way to decline politely, if he would rather not.

Note that I said "your friend"... This only works with between very good friends that know how each other ride.
I would also ask:
1-show me your proof of insurance(Here is mine)
2-Show me your M endorsement(Here is mine)
3-Please sign this waiver
4-If either of us crash will we still be friends?
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I would also ask:
1-show me your proof of insurance(Here is mine)
2-Show me your M endorsement(Here is mine)
3-Please sign this waiver
4-If either of us crash will we still be friends?
It happens. I loaned my bike out to a family member with an M endorsement and insurance and he high-sided. My SV took quite a beating and had to be repaired. It got a new front end, along with some other necessities that the rider paid for in full.

More importantly than knowing how the friend rides or knowing if they have insurance is knowing the type of person they are - are they the kind of person who will pay up in any circumstance, or are they likely to have a victim mentality and blame the accident on 'not my fault'.
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Ween. And to be sure, I remind him of this every time he comments that it's HIS dirt bike. I remind him that he's only 15 and everything that's his, I actually own. He can't own anything, because he's a child. He hates that.



I had to threaten to take it away from him if he ever lets another friend ride it.
I would guess that someday when he buys his own bike, when he works hard to earn the money to make the payments, when he is responsible to pay for repairs, he will feel differently about letting his friends ride it.

Its human nature to appreciate things that you have sweat equity in more than things that are given to you. An underlying cause for many problems in our society, btw.
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I would guess that someday when he buys his own bike, when he works hard to earn the money to make the payments, when he is responsible to pay for repairs, he will feel differently about letting his friends ride it.

Its human nature to appreciate things that you have sweat equity in more than things that are given to you. An underlying cause for many problems in our society, btw.
Truth. I always get on to them for borrowing anything - even a sweater or shoes, my rule is if it's not yours don't touch it.
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I would also ask:
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4-If either of us crash will we still be friends?
Frankly, if I have to ask all those questions, then it is not a friend I would want to swap bikes with, period.

It's like asking a woman for HIV test report before having . Some of us try not to get into that sort of situation in the first place.
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Frankly, if I have to ask all those questions, then it is not a friend I would want to swap bikes with, period.

It's like asking a woman for HIV test report before having . Some of us try not to get into that sort of situation in the first place.
Well sometimes you really don't know your friends until something happens. It is unfortunate to say that but a sad commentary on people.

However if you are having unprotected you better be sure.
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I have let several ride mine over the years. It was only totaled once
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Proper etiquette is to wait until you are both riding together, say, to lunch. Then ask if your friend would like to try *your* own bike. The inference is unmistakable, but without actually asking. It also allows you friend a way to decline politely, if he would rather not.

Note that I said "your friend"... This only works with between very good friends that know how each other ride.
LOL yeah exactly, I had this move pulled on me recently...."Yeah man I'll let you ride it if you want" right after sitting on my VFR and commenting about how comfortable she was.
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