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Old 05-13-2013, 07:10 PM   #21
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Donte.. you are in Tomball .. take it by Motorcycles Unlimited and have them look at it.
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Old 05-13-2013, 07:30 PM   #22
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a suggestion...
clean the fuel pump filter, sounds like the secondaries are starving for fuel...
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-cleaning the fuel filter. sea foam wouldnt hurt it.

-check air filter(replace if its dirty!).

-possibly poor exhaust back pressure. (packing in the exhaust is poorly constructed)

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Old 05-13-2013, 10:17 PM   #23
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Ok nvrmind I was halfass reading it... its probably the exhaust airflow. "Back pressure" . IMO mgp exhaust are man.
The pipe came with the bike, and I like it a lot. Its way better than the stock one, with enough sound to be heard but not overly loud. It also has a nice low tone that I like. From a performance standpoint I do wish I could put a new pipe on but don't have the $500+ for a slip on or full system.
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I don't think it sounds like a chain issue but just FYI...
Your chain will be worn out loong before you use up all the adjustment. Try lifting the chain at the back of the rear sprocket. Like you are trying to pull it up off the sprocket right where it goes around the back.
It it lifts more than the tiniest amount, your chain is worn. Not saying that means you have to replace it but you should get it checked by somebody that knows what to look for.
I will have it looked over again
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Donte.. you are in Tomball .. take it by Motorcycles Unlimited and have them look at it.
I might, really depends on how much they are going to charge. It would probably be 50 to a 100 dollars for them to do an 1/2 hour, or hour check. Im pretty sure I found the problem, It needs a power commander.
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-cleaning the fuel filter. sea foam wouldnt hurt it.

-check air filter(replace if its dirty!).

-possibly poor exhaust back pressure. (packing in the exhaust is poorly constructed)

my 02cent.
I have put sea foam in the tank a few times, probably not as much as I should I only put a small amount in(under the recommend oz per gallon), im also going to try and octane buster my next fill up. The air filter I know needs to be cleaned/replaced after my last trip, lot of love bugs died. As for the exhaust I have no idea how well the back pressure is. Im pretty sure I know the solution to the problem, its know as surging and is common on the 2009 with out a PCV.
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Check/change the air filter and see what happens.

And Just curious... Why are you ever holding the bike steady at 9k+ rpms?

When I'm on a 600 I'm either cruising at 6-8k, or actually riding it (accelerating and braking a lot). I'm not sure I would ever notice something like that

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Old 05-14-2013, 12:56 AM   #25
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Ps- you midpipe/cat provides decent back pressure, but the HB pipe provides 0.
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Check/change the air filter and see what happens.

And Just curious... Why are you ever holding the bike steady at 9k+ rpms?

When I'm on a 600 I'm either cruising at 6-8k, or actually riding it (accelerating and braking a lot). I'm not sure I would ever notice something like that
I to ride like that for the most part to, but I found it when I did a some what hard acceleration then had to stop suddenly and just engine braked. When I got back on it the rpms where around the 9-10 mark and that's when I noticed it. After that I was a bit worried as I though it might be a serious problem.
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Ps- you midpipe/cat provides decent back pressure, but the HB pipe provides 0.
So are you saying that the bike still might need even more back pressure?
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Gotcha.

and on most bikes, no... but seeing as this is a known issue on the 09's... it might be the key.

If it really is not enough back pressure/too lean of a map, you'd think that a dirty air filter would actually help the problem. My general rule is to always change the tuning when a major change in flow has occured, I'm not too familiar with the 09's, but I know that the cat is in the midpipe, and that's where most of the pressure comes from. Stock pipes are pretty restrictive too, but I have several buddies running slip ons on their 09/11 zx6rs with no issues. Those are real slip ons though, not just open pipes.


I'd do some more research. If you do end up needing/wanting a PC let me know, I have a PC3 to fit 07-12 zx6r.
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Ps- you midpipe/cat provides decent back pressure, but the HB pipe provides 0.
Might not even have one with certain slip on pipes for that bike.
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Its either the Muffler Bearings of you Blinker Fluid is low.
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I have an 09 with no issues. I have the m4 gp with no issues
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Gotcha.

and on most bikes, no... but seeing as this is a known issue on the 09's... it might be the key.

If it really is not enough back pressure/too lean of a map, you'd think that a dirty air filter would actually help the problem. My general rule is to always change the tuning when a major change in flow has occured, I'm not too familiar with the 09's, but I know that the cat is in the midpipe, and that's where most of the pressure comes from. Stock pipes are pretty restrictive too, but I have several buddies running slip ons on their 09/11 zx6rs with no issues. Those are real slip ons though, not just open pipes.


I'd do some more research. If you do end up needing/wanting a PC let me know, I have a PC3 to fit 07-12 zx6r.
How much for the PC?
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I have an 09 with no issues. I have the m4 gp with no issues
From what I have been reading its kind of a 50/50 problem. Have you actually tried to find it, ride your bike in that range and just hold it 10K rpms and see if it happens, you don't feel it if you just gun it to the 16.5 redline.
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I remember reading an article about the 09 zx6r having stator issues but oher than that bike works fine. I will check what you said and let you know soon.
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I'd do $180 shipped- $170 pickup. I'm in College station- hour northwest of houston
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I remember reading an article about the 09 zx6r having stator issues but oher than that bike works fine. I will check what you said and let you know soon.
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I'd do $180 shipped- $170 pickup. I'm in College station- hour northwest of houston
Might have to wait on that, if im going to spend 2 hundred I am going to get a new helmet first. I can live with the surging for a little while.
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Cool- and good choice. This is the backup for my trackbike, so it's not going anywhere.
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PS- stg has the exo-700s on sale for $90. Fantastic deal. I've got a couple 400's and a 700- IMO they are some of the best bang for your bucket helmets around.
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just made a run earlier and like you said, steady throttle 9k for about 1 min then did the same for 10K and 11k with no issues.
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PS- stg has the exo-700s on sale for $90. Fantastic deal. I've got a couple 400's and a 700- IMO they are some of the best bang for your bucket helmets around.
Might have to check them out.
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Clutch slipping then catching?
I don't believe its the clutch, if it was the clutch why would it only slip at the rev range, and not all ranges?
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just made a run earlier and like you said, steady throttle 9k for about 1 min then did the same for 10K and 11k with no issues.
Lucky, like I said its kind of a 50/50 problem
http://www.kawiforums.com/2009-2012-...000-rpm-3.html
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I do have the same issue but doesn't bother me as bad as you but maybe its not as bad. It was all after the slip on exhaust. Waiting to get PCV to see if it helps. Doesnt bother me too much though.
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