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Old 03-15-2007, 12:30 AM   #21
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in my experience cages suit slow stunts best. if you go down on the track or freeway with a cage you may rup up not only the track surface but snap mounting tabs on the frame or engine (wherever the mount on the bike)

metal sliders do the same since they catch the ground and snap off instead of bend or scrape.
My buddy crashed his bike on the freeway at about 70 with a powers cage and everything was trashed on the bike but what the cage protected. Nothing wrong with his frame at all. Not saying it cant happen cause i hear its possible that the cage breaks whatever the cage mounts to sometimes but it helped my buddy out in this situation or his motor would have been junk too.

As for the sliders, every slider will only give a limited amount of protection no matter what kind you get. Yes the plastic ones are better than metal for the reason stated above, they grab the concrete and sometimes can cause alot more damage to the bike themselves. All sliders are designed to save the bike at a fall over or slow speed. Nothing will save the bike at high speed. I dont care what anyone says.

I got the no cuts on my 06 636 because i couldnt justify chopping my brand new fairings up for the other ones. The metal bracket is thick solid metal so i dont see why it wouldnt hold up as good as the ones you cut. Everyone has their own opinion though.
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Old 03-15-2007, 12:50 AM   #22
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I got the no cuts on my 06 636 because i couldnt justify chopping my brand new fairings up for the other ones. The metal bracket is thick solid metal so i dont see why it wouldnt hold up as good as the ones you cut. Everyone has their own opinion though.
the bracket may be thick but the weight of the bike being dropped will be distributed in diffrent directions, bending the bracket.

ive seen (pics) and heard of 05-06 636 horror stories because the no cut sliders didnt hold up. im not saying the cut sliders will prevent any damge in a crash but having one less stress point in a slider will help IMO.
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the bracket may be thick but the weight of the bike being dropped will be distributed in diffrent directions, bending the bracket.

ive seen (pics) and heard of 05-06 636 horror stories because the no cut sliders didnt hold up. im not saying the cut sliders will prevent any damge in a crash but having one less stress point in a slider will help IMO.
Im sure it wasnt damage caused by the slider itself though. Just damage from the slider not protecting the bike as well as one would hope but sliders cant prevent that kind of damage no matter which ones you get.

Only in low speed crashes will they even have a remote chance of saving your bike.
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WTF??? i didnt know that "no cut" frame sliders were not as good as regular ones. The oem ones on my bike didnt require cutting. whats the real deal guys?
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WTF??? i didnt know that "no cut" frame sliders were not as good as regular ones. The oem ones on my bike didnt require cutting. whats the real deal guys?
All frame sliders are going to be about the same quality besides the metal ones. Stay away from those.

Like i said above, frame sliders can only do so much for you. They cant save your bike completely but alot of people expect them to and get dissappointed when they dont. They arent designed to save the bike in a high speed crash.

Mostly designed to protect the bike if it falls over or in a low speed crash. As long as your frame sliders are the plastic ones cut or no cut, they do the same job.
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All frame sliders are going to be about the same quality besides the metal ones. Stay away from those.

Like i said above, frame sliders can only do so much for you. They cant save your bike completely but alot of people expect them to and get dissappointed when they dont. They arent designed to save the bike in a high speed crash.

Mostly designed to protect the bike if it falls over or in a low speed crash. As long as your frame sliders are the plastic ones cut or no cut, they do the same job.
The no cuts snap at the bracket. I personally run the cut sliders and have not had a chance to try them out yet. I remember an unnamed cycle shop wanted $90 labor to install the cut sliders. When I asked why, they replied stating that they would might have to replace the fairing if they messed it up.
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Lol. That the chance you take. My buddy messed his up by drilling the hole a little off center so he shaved it down to make it still fit so he wouldnt need to buy another fairing but it looked like . Thats the risk you run using the cuts.

And i have heard they can break but i know people that have gone down on the no cuts and had no problems with them. I guess its just the luck of the draw.
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