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Old 03-13-2007, 12:05 AM   #1
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Track bike questions....

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Ive been looking into buying a track bike but wanted to ask if the bike needs to have a title to run on the track?

Reason why i am asking is because my buddy that stunts just found a killer deal on an f4i that has no title but its going to be a parking lot bike only so he bought it to stunt since it wont be street legal. Im just wondering if its the same with track bikes?

Might save me some money this way...


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P.S. I considered making the 636 a trackbike but its so clean, id rather get another bike to run at the track instead. Plus, this way i can still have a street legal bike to ride as well.
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Ok, thats what i figured. This is great then. I can save alot buying a no title bike.

The bike must have a vin on it though right?
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they dont check at the track for any of that. at least i havent heard of anything over the last years.
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Ok cool. Im going to keep a lookout for a clean bike i can get a deal on with no title unless i find something at a good price with a title.
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they dont check at the track for any of that. at least i havent heard of anything over the last years.
so does that mean people can borrow bikes and go out there
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you can borrow someones frame or buy it from out of state, yes.

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ok...i'll let my friend know that just in case he borrows a bike for the track. I just didn't want to get in trouble...I mean my friend doesn't want to get into any trouble :laughing6 :laughing6 :laughing6
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they dont check at the track for any of that. at least i havent heard of anything over the last years.
guess you didnt hear about the "sting" op dps did at texas world, they took a few bikes.
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guess you didnt hear about the "sting" op dps did at texas world, they took a few bikes.
heard about that but it was years ago
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heard about that but it was years ago
what bikes did they take?!?! im hoping just ones with stolen VIN's and not just unregistered ones...
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I would always buy with the title.

A few years ago (from hear say), the TWS (Texas World Speedway) incident.

It would suck to be ready for a track day only to find out they don't let you in coz of the title status or ownership status - not that i travel with my title!
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guess you didnt hear about the "sting" op dps did at texas world, they took a few bikes.

in 1999 the Dallas cops drove up to the track at Oak Hill with two large flatbed trucks to haul away all stolen non titled bikes. they got some poor guys gsxr because they said the vin number looked scratched it cost in more to get the bike back then he had paid for it + it was stored laying down outside for 6 months while he fought the courts.

They also loaded up all of the Ride Smart 125's because they did not have a standard vin number. Joe Chattam got them to unload those. They did find one stolen bike with a fla plate on it. Some sort of large H.D. with windshield and saddle bags. They did not find anyone that knew anything about that bike. So they had one bike per 24' flat bed.

Scott may know who's GSXR I can't remember.

edit I don't know anything about the TWS (Texas World Speedway) raid my cbr made it ok at Oak Hill titled not in my name.

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Hey fellas,
Ive been looking into buying a track bike but wanted to ask if the bike needs to have a title to run on the track?

Reason why i am asking is because my buddy that stunts just found a killer deal on an f4i that has no title but its going to be a parking lot bike only so he bought it to stunt since it wont be street legal. Im just wondering if its the same with track bikes?

Might save me some money this way...


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P.S. I considered making the 636 a trackbike but its so clean, id rather get another bike to run at the track instead. Plus, this way i can still have a street legal bike to ride as well.
first of all, have you been to a track day??? if not, you may want to consider trying one before buyin a dedicated "track bike" you may find that you don't like it, this sport isn't for everyone but most find it to be more appealing than riding the street.

just tape up the street bike and hit a trackpipe for a day, then make your decision. never know, you may save yourself $4000 and some time.
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Hey fellas,
Ive been looking into buying a track bike but wanted to ask if the bike needs to have a title to run on the track?

Reason why i am asking is because my buddy that stunts just found a killer deal on an f4i that has no title but its going to be a parking lot bike only so he bought it to stunt since it wont be street legal. Im just wondering if its the same with track bikes?

Might save me some money this way...


LMK guys. Thanks!!

P.S. I considered making the 636 a trackbike but its so clean, id rather get another bike to run at the track instead. Plus, this way i can still have a street legal bike to ride as well.

dude dont waste your money, I bet u wont even take it to the track it will sit in your parents garage and collect what if stories. I kill u!!
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first of all, have you been to a track day??? if not, you may want to consider trying one before buyin a dedicated "track bike" you may find that you don't like it, this sport isn't for everyone but most find it to be more appealing than riding the street.

just tape up the street bike and hit a trackpipe for a day, then make your decision. never know, you may save yourself $4000 and some time.
No, havent been to one yet but i dont really wanna take my bike out there and risk crashing it getting crazy on it out there. I already know judging on how i like to ride on the street that i will love the track! I just want to buy another bike to use so if i crash it, i dont really have to be worried about it because i wont be completely out of a bike.

I may still go hit the track with the tape just to check it out like you said but i already know ill like it.
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dude dont waste your money, I bet u wont even take it to the track it will sit in your parents garage and collect what if stories. I kill u!!
Lol. No, i wont let that happen! Where the have you been anyways? You still ride? lol You cant talk ! :laughing6
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in 1999 the Dallas cops drove up to the track at Oak Hill with two large flatbed trucks to haul away all stolen non titled bikes. they got some poor guys gsxr because they said the vin number looked scratched it cost in more to get the bike back then he had paid for it + it was stored laying down outside for 6 months while he fought the courts.

They also loaded up all of the Ride Smart 125's because they did not have a standard vin number. Joe Chattam got them to unload those. They did find one stolen bike with a fla plate on it. Some sort of large H.D. with windshield and saddle bags. They did not find anyone that knew anything about that bike. So they had one bike per 24' flat bed.

Scott may know who's GSXR I can't remember.

edit I don't know anything about the TWS (Texas World Speedway) raid my cbr made it ok at Oak Hill titled not in my name.
So i guess its obviously better to have a titled bike but you still dont have to have a title as long as you have a bill of sale right? And as long as it has a vin on it that is not a stolen vin #?

Im assuming from what you have said, a no vin bike wont fly either unless im prepare to lose it if they do decide to do another sting. Might not be worth the money i would save compared to what it would cost me to lose the bike all together.
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As one who has had a bike stolen, I would love to see more 'stings.' (assuming the cops are only matching known VIN numbers or bikes which have been obviously cleaned.) I saw a guy riding my bike 36 hours after it was stolen and had I been able to catch him I would have run him down. In Texas you have the right to use lethal force to protect your property. I'm just not sure if it's legal to use lethal force to recover property but I'd take my chances with any jury from these parts.

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As one who has had a bike stolen, I would love to see more 'stings.' (assuming the cops are only matching known VIN numbers or bikes which have been obviously cleaned.) I saw a guy riding my bike 36 hours after it was stolen and had I been able to catch him I would have run him down. In Texas you have the right to use lethal force to protect your property. I'm just not sure if it's legal to use lethal force to recover property but I'd take my chances with any jury from these parts.
Yeah man, i agree with that! I wouldnt wan anyone to steal my bike and get away with riding it at the track. Im just looking for a cheaper price on getting a trackbike and thought it might save me some cash if i can find one like my buddy did with no title. Just trying to see what is and is not allowed at the track. If it was for the street, i would want a vin and title for sure but for the track, i dont really care as long as i wont get in any trouble from buying a bike without those things.
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