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Old 04-13-2013, 08:53 PM   #201
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Just came from a meeting organizing a fund raiser for a local that was hit head on by another cager while driving his '67 Camaro. He also has a pro street car, and a Vette. Problem is he had no health insurance and is in ICU in Lubbock. His wife was killed in the wreck as well as the other driver. Guys, get your priorties straight and don't expect others to clean up after you. We have "Air Evacuation" transport insurance for both of us. Only cost $52 a year. You just never know when, where, or who's time it is so take some time to think about it, please.
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Just came from a meeting organizing a fund raiser for a local that was hit head on by another cager while driving his '67 Camaro. He also has a pro street car, and a Vette. Problem is he had no health insurance and is in ICU in Lubbock. His wife was killed in the wreck as well as the other driver. Guys, get your priorties straight and don't expect others to clean up after you. We have "Air Evacuation" transport insurance for both of us. Only cost $52 a year. You just never know when, where, or who's time it is so take some time to think about it, please.
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Just came from a meeting organizing a fund raiser for a local that was hit head on by another cager while driving his '67 Camaro. He also has a pro street car, and a Vette. Problem is he had no health insurance and is in ICU in Lubbock. His wife was killed in the wreck as well as the other driver. Guys, get your priorties straight and don't expect others to clean up after you. We have "Air Evacuation" transport insurance for both of us. Only cost $52 a year. You just never know when, where, or who's time it is so take some time to think about it, please.
You definitely have no business riding if you have a family and no life insurance. When I didn't have health insurance I added medical onto my liability insurance. If anything happens to me, at least I know my kids will be taken care of and not be a burden on my family.
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A friend sells the medi-vac helicoptor insurance. Check with the hospitals there to see who they use. If you need transportation in the sticks they get there fast. If you have to pay it can run upwards of $10,000 for a trip. Cheap insurance if ever needed.
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Very well said from the experienced riders on these boards.
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Air evacuation insurance is for transport once stabilized in a hospital. LifeFlight services are not called after an insurance check - they are called to the scene with respect to medical need. If you go down in a ditch somewhere rural EMS on scene makes the call for the chopper.
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Air evacuation insurance is for transport once stabilized in a hospital. LifeFlight services are not called after an insurance check - they are called to the scene with respect to medical need. If you go down in a ditch somewhere rural EMS on scene makes the call for the chopper.
Yep. And that bill us over $12k; at least it was for me.

And the ambulance that drove .3 miles to the helicopter billed $900.
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So I'm wondering, is this thread about street riders apathy for fallen (hurt) riders?

About just warning new street riders not to go out there and push beyond their limits?

Or is this to cover all rider apathy and a warning for all riders (street & track)?
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The $52 annual fee is for two people. Well worth the peace of mind.
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Agreed, thanks. I have seen the local air transport stickers from time to time, but I was looking for a universal type coverage.

A while back, I found insurance specific to motorcycle riders that covered ANY air transport from the scene and it also covered your air transport (you or your body ) back home after the initial care following a crash. It was a few hundred a year, but I can't remember where I found it. I'll look again and post in a new thread if I can find it.
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Wait I'm confused, doesn't air transport cover transport from one hospital to another? I Thought liability covered the 911 dispatched vehicles. You can elect air transport or not once at facility and is covered in your medical if you choose to elect it. But liability either your's or theirs should cover emergency response. No first hand knowledge but I have a friend whose lawyer got him a good settlement to cover the $12K lifeflight ride and $1.8K IV they gave him, when his truck was hit by a drunk driver who ran a red light while pulling through an intersection. I have to check with him on that.
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These is all great info. Keep it coming
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Agreed, thanks. I have seen the local air transport stickers from time to time, but I was looking for a universal type coverage.

A while back, I found insurance specific to motorcycle riders that covered ANY air transport from the scene and it also covered your air transport (you or your body ) back home after the initial care following a crash. It was a few hundred a year, but I can't remember where I found it. I'll look again and post in a new thread if I can find it.
I won't start another thread, but here is a decent thread about helicopter flights. My post #27 discussed the insurance I mentioned above.

It won't cover a helicopter ride from the initial transport (I don't think) but it will cover getting you you home area.

http://www.motohouston.com/forums/sh...=air+insurance
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I suffer daily, this is true, but I have a wife and kids all post paralysis. If I were to have died, my son and daughter would never exist. Think about that one.

As for chopper rides, mine was 9400.
Liability insurance is set to 25k minimum as a default as required by state law. So that's never going to cover a minor accident's medical expenses much less a major medical expense.

As for the OPs first post about being forgotten, this is very much true. People that were your friends turns out that they weren't. It's pretty but true.i have retained a few per-accident but most are post accident. Out of all the ones in a picture that hangs in my office and put together a benefit ride, only one of them talks to me and has any interaction with me. I'd like to have kept those friends. I've put in the effort to reach out but they don't respond. Sometimes though, I was told that it's too hard for them to see their friend like that. Maybe that's true but your real friend doesn't care about that and treats you like a friend.
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I know but it is the nature of that sport, might have more uncontrolled dangers out on the street riding fast on backroads but coming down hot on sugar and spice has its own risks as well......
At the end of the day it is your life and your choice to take those risks...I believe people do give a when someone they know get hurt but after a while life goes on and people move on to their daily routine....and the injured one stays with the pain but it is part of the game when you get on that bike and decide to ride fast.
I don't agree that illegally-fast, dangerous riding on the street can even be considered a sport.

I do it - I've never done a track day at all, so I'm guilty of lots of bad moto-related traffic crimes - but I sure don't consider what I'm doing a sport. Sport is what the guys at the sanctioned events are doing.

Additionally - I don't care about riding "buddies" forgetting about me in a week after I die. I only care about the pain that I would cause my family, true friends and forbid the lives of any innocent motorists that I may affect with my decision making.

A (street legal) sport bike is only called that because it is a race replica, race as in what people do on the track. But my words should be taken with a grain of salt because I'm an admitted street hooligan.
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Riding a motorcycle is pretty dangerous in itself. So should we not ride because it's not worth the risk?
Yes, if the risk is too great for what you can accept then you shouldn't ride a motorcycle. Unless you're suicidal, masochistic or just plain unsympathetic about others you may affect, then you should try and balance that inherent risk with degree of responsibility in your street riding.

I do stupid stuff on the roads sometimes and occasionally I feel like I went too far and did something that could have hurt myself or someone else. Those instances where it was someone else I could have hurt I always feel pretty guilty and am very glad that I got away with it - my risk balance for the safety of others is always greatly skewed in their favor.

My risk balance for hurting myself is greatly less because I enjoy spirited riding and it's worth it to me. Now, granted, sometimes I forget the pain that I would cause friends and family if I did great harm to myself and that's what's pushing me toward the track more and more every day.
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It's not a Street VS Track thread however, I know that there are a lot more people that ride street than track but in 6 years I can't think of 1 person who was killed at a track day here in Texas.
Was the guy at oak hill in a race?

(Sorry about not multi-quoting. I suck)
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