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Old 04-11-2013, 09:40 AM   #1
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To all you wanna be street killers..

First thing is, if I ever kill myself on the streets, DO NOT put together a fund raiser for me. I would hate for my family to see a fund in my name struggle to raise a few thousand bucks.

This morning I woke up, scanned FB, and noticed a fund raiser for the young man who lost his life last week on Racer's Road. The one that went unnoticed... remember? I clicked on the link and noticed that $396 of a $10,000.00 goal had be raised. I think it's up to $450 now. Long way to go, you'd think, but imagine if everyone on the ride gave $200.00 and the other self proclaimed wealthy guys picked up a litte more of the tab, the $10k would be raised as fast as you could made 6 runs up and down racers road.

Several months ago a guy crashed on 3090. He's a parapalegic now. I saw a post of his on facebook the other day. The day the accident happened there were so many visitors and people stayed until well into the night. As each day passed fewer and fewer people came. Now he is home, the visitors are few and far between, and most have gone on with their lives and the incident is over for them. For him, it has just begun and will continue for the next 40 years of his life.

Not too long ago, at Rio Bravo MX, on a wednesday night, a guy crashed. Maybe 6 weeks ago? He just left ICU and is at TIRR now. His family is in another country. He has his girlfriend here. I'm not sure of the longterm prognosis but I dont thing it's super optimistic. Life has gone on for those that were there with him. He is still very much in the struggle. I was at Rio that night.

There was Tim Waters a few years ago. I was on that ride. I think of him periodically. I'm sure his family misses and thinks of him far more than I do, or anyone else who was on that ride think of him.

And Coach Dave... can't forget him. I wonder how often his children think of him?

And there were many more before I came around and plenty that I dont know about who's lives were changed forever, whose families were devasted, kids left fatherless or without a mother. Wives widowed, etc. For those people and their families it was a very real and horrific experience and they'll never forget teh day it happened or the phone call they received. It was much more than just a screen name or some guy who showed up on an occassional ride with people who acted like they really cared about them.

I think what I am getting at is that you newer guys, or even not so new guys, should really understand where your life falls, in terms of importance, with the guys you choose to ride with and race down 3090, 149, racers road, CRR, 610 or whatever lame twisty you ride. The importance of your life falls after theirs, their wife, GF, kids, job, mom, dad, bother, sister, cousins, neighbors and so on and so on... in other words your life actually matters very little to a lot of them. I know guys who get off on people crashing trying to hang with them. I know guys thagt'll ask you for parts of your crashed motorcycle while you're laying in the ditch waiting on an ambulance to come get you. So while you're out there trying to be buddy buddy with some dude(s) who really doesn't give a about you, long term, you're showing complete disregard and respect for those who WILL foot the bill for your funeral... no matter how much it is. They will borrow the money and take on the debt, to make sure you're buried with respect.

I don't know what I'm trying to say... That kids life is just weighing heavy on my heart this morning.

Know one really gives a who made it to Yankees the fastest last Sunday. No one really cares who lead the fast group. Except for the litle picture folks, the rest of us are laughing at you and hoping that some young, impressionable kid doesn't get killed in the process of seeking some dude approval, who at the end of the day, will forget about you a week after you're gone. Been there, done that... nobody cares.

Ride your ride. those guys.

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First thing is, if I ever kill myself on the streets, DO NOT put together a fund raiser for me. I would hate for my family to see a fund in my name struggle to raise a few thousand bucks.

This morning I woke up, scanned FB, and noticed a fund raiser for the young man who lost his life last week on Racer's Road. The one that went unnoticed... remember? I clicked on the link and noticed that $396 of a $10,000.00 goal had be raised. I think it's up to $450 now. Long way to go, you'd think, but imagine if everyone on the ride gave $200.00 and the other self proclaimed wealthy guys picked up a litte more of the tab, the $10k would be raised as fast as you could made 6 runs up and down racers road.

Several months ago a guy crashed on 3090. He's a parapalegic now. I saw a post of his on facebook the other day. The day the accident happened there were so many visitors and people stayed until well into the night. As each day passed fewer and fewer people came. Now he is home, the visitors are few and far between, and most have gone on with their lives and the incident is over for them. For him, it has just begun and will continue for the next 40 years of his life.

Not too long ago, at Rio Bravo MX, on a wednesday night, a guy crashed. Maybe 6 weeks ago? He just left ICU and is at TIRR now. His family is in another country. He has his girlfriend here. I'm not sure of the longterm prognosis but I dont thing it's super optimistic. Life has gone on for those that were there with him. He is still very much in the struggle. I was at Rio that night.

There was Tim Waters a few years ago. I was on that ride. I think of him periodically. I'm sure his family misses and thinks of him far more than I do, or anyone else who was on that ride think of him.

And Coach Dave... can't forget him. I wonder how often his children think of him?

And there were many more before I came around and plenty that I dont know about who's lives were changed forever, whose families were devasted, kids left fatherless or without a mother. Wives widowed, etc. For those people and their families it was a very real and horrific experience and they'll never forget teh day it happened or the phone call they received. It was much more than just a screen name or some guy who showed up on an occassional ride with people who acted like they really cared about them.

I think what I am getting at is that you newer guys, or even not so new guys, should really understand where your life falls, in terms of importance, with the guys you choose to ride with and race down 3090, 149, racers road, CRR, 610 or whatever lame twisty you ride. The importance of your life falls after theirs, their wife, GF, kids, job, mom, dad, bother, sister, cousins, neighbors and so on and so on... in other words your life actually matters very little to a lot of them. I know guy who get off on people crashing trying to hang with them. I know guys thagt'll ask you for parts of your crashed motorcycle while you're laying in the ditch waiting on an ambulance to come get you. So while you're out there trying to be buddy buddy with some dude(s) who really doesn't give a about you, long term, you're showing complete disregard and respect for those who WILL foot the bill for your funeral... no matter how much it is. They will borrow the money and take on the debt, to make sure you're buried with respect.

I don't know what I'm trying to say... That kids life is just weighing heavy on my heart this morning.

Know one really gives a who made it to Yankees the fastest last Sunday. No one really cares who lead the fast group. Except for the litle picture folks, the rest of us are laughing at you and hoping that some young, impressionable kid doesn't get killed in the process of seeking some dude approval, who at the end of the day, will forget about you a week after you're gone.

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I'm not saying anything about the track.

I think what I'm trying to say is that it's not worth risking your life and leaving the folks who really care about you behind.

I see all these people who have died or permantly injured themselves and after a few weeks of acting like they really give a , it's business as usual for all their moto buddies and the families are left picking up the pieces.
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I am not sure what he is saying, but i like the sound of it...
already this year there are too many who will never ride again, and too many families in pain. This needs to stop. This last one is the second one this year that i am aware of that was killed on a ride and the guys he was riding with did not know they went down. I am not placing any blame, i am not saying anyone is at fault, but it should not happen.
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Great post. Feelings like this are the biggest reason I haven't ridden much in the last couple of years. I've been kicking around the idea of selling the ninja and picking up a goldwing or something so the wife can go cruise with me. That, or maybe a 4 wheeler just to play in the dirt at the lease or something.
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I'm not saying anything about the track.

I think what I'm trying to say is that it's not worth risking your life and leaving the folks who really care about you behind.

I see all these people who have died or permantly injured themselves and after a few weeks of acting like they really give a , it's business as usual for all their moto buddies and the families are left picking up the pieces.
so then your saying riding is not worth the risk?

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First thing is, if I ever kill myself on the streets, DO NOT put together a fund raiser for me. I would hate for my family to see a fund in my name struggle to raise a few thousand bucks.

This morning I woke up, scanned FB, and noticed a fund raiser for the young man who lost his life last week on Racer's Road. The one that went unnoticed... remember? I clicked on the link and noticed that $396 of a $10,000.00 goal had be raised. I think it's up to $450 now. Long way to go, you'd think, but imagine if everyone on the ride gave $200.00 and the other self proclaimed wealthy guys picked up a litte more of the tab, the $10k would be raised as fast as you could made 6 runs up and down racers road.

Several months ago a guy crashed on 3090. He's a parapalegic now. I saw a post of his on facebook the other day. The day the accident happened there were so many visitors and people stayed until well into the night. As each day passed fewer and fewer people came. Now he is home, the visitors are few and far between, and most have gone on with their lives and the incident is over for them. For him, it has just begun and will continue for the next 40 years of his life.

Not too long ago, at Rio Bravo MX, on a wednesday night, a guy crashed. Maybe 6 weeks ago? He just left ICU and is at TIRR now. His family is in another country. He has his girlfriend here. I'm not sure of the longterm prognosis but I dont thing it's super optimistic. Life has gone on for those that were there with him. He is still very much in the struggle. I was at Rio that night.

There was Tim Waters a few years ago. I was on that ride. I think of him periodically. I'm sure his family misses and thinks of him far more than I do, or anyone else who was on that ride think of him.

And Coach Dave... can't forget him. I wonder how often his children think of him?

And there were many more before I came around and plenty that I dont know about who's lives were changed forever, whose families were devasted, kids left fatherless or without a mother. Wives widowed, etc. For those people and their families it was a very real and horrific experience and they'll never forget teh day it happened or the phone call they received. It was much more than just a screen name or some guy who showed up on an occassional ride with people who acted like they really cared about them.

I think what I am getting at is that you newer guys, or even not so new guys, should really understand where your life falls, in terms of importance, with the guys you choose to ride with and race down 3090, 149, racers road, CRR, 610 or whatever lame twisty you ride. The importance of your life falls after theirs, their wife, GF, kids, job, mom, dad, bother, sister, cousins, neighbors and so on and so on... in other words your life actually matters very little to a lot of them. I know guys who get off on people crashing trying to hang with them. I know guys thagt'll ask you for parts of your crashed motorcycle while you're laying in the ditch waiting on an ambulance to come get you. So while you're out there trying to be buddy buddy with some dude(s) who really doesn't give a about you, long term, you're showing complete disregard and respect for those who WILL foot the bill for your funeral... no matter how much it is. They will borrow the money and take on the debt, to make sure you're buried with respect.

I don't know what I'm trying to say... That kids life is just weighing heavy on my heart this morning.

Know one really gives a who made it to Yankees the fastest last Sunday. No one really cares who lead the fast group. Except for the litle picture folks, the rest of us are laughing at you and hoping that some young, impressionable kid doesn't get killed in the process of seeking some dude approval, who at the end of the day, will forget about you a week after you're gone. Been there, done that... nobody cares.

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I think what I'm trying to say is that it's not worth risking your life and leaving the folks who really care about you behind.

I see all these people who have died or permantly injured themselves and after a few weeks of acting like they really give a , it's business as usual for all their moto buddies and the families are left picking up the pieces.
THat is true of anything that we do. Dangerous or mundane that results in an accident.

As far as people moving on to normal activities...that is the human condition.

Look no further than 9/11. As time passes, even the news of the smaller memorial services are barely mentioned.
Think about soldiers killed in action recently and in years past?
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so then your saying riding is not worth the risk?

I'm confused
I took away from it that riding the street like a track is not worth the risk. There are inherent risks in riding to begin with, why tempt fate on the street with significantly higher speeds and a much greater chance of something happening outside of your control?
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right, cuz racers and trackday doers never get hurt or killed
It can and does happen, but at the track, the folks you are riding with know you went down, there is help there immediately and folks are not continuing the ride not even knowing you are missing.
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