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Old 03-10-2013, 10:43 AM   #1
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Cbr250r riding in wet conditions

The wife complained that se was having traction problems yesterday morning due to wet conditions/rain on her way in to work. She wants new tires which i am most likely gonna get.

So to test the stock tires(road winner) tires with 2500 miles on them....
i took a looooong ride. when i left i wasnt raining but half an hour later it came down hard and the wind was pushing me on that lil 250. Tires stay well planted. ran over s afew big puddles and although it made a splash didnt give. Guess i was doing 80 on the highway and dpsl +10 on the on/off ramps. Allin all i think they held up well for stock. Only issue i had was i hit a BIG puddle ad the rear seemed to moveto the side a bit but never out of control or unstable. ended up putting aroung 120+ miles on it and around 80 of that in the rain. That was this morning. It was awesome!!

What kind of tire should i go to? she will mostly be commuting and an occasionl trackday. I'm running the s20 on my bigboy bike but think she will needsomething like sport touring. thinking the pr3's
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Old 03-10-2013, 12:29 PM   #2
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She probably just need to loosen up her arms a little more. And check with cuong on tires for that 250
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also where in the lane was she riding? left right middle

has she taken msf? does she know what to look for?
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She probably just need to loosen up her arms a little more. And check with cuong on tires for that 250
Good idea.. Will def do that thanks
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also where in the lane was she riding? left right middle

has she taken msf? does she know what to look for?
Ya she took the msf but been a while. Didn't even think about that but I will ask for sure.. Been a while since she been on the bike..
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Pilot Road 3s. You will NEVER loose traction unless you want to.

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Big ole Props for riding in the rain! I ride 24/7, in rain, sun, hail, sleet, and 30 degree weather. you fair weather . lol

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The wet grip of a tire starts to degrade right after the tire leaves the mold. If you buy her tires, get freshest ones you can get and then replace them again after two years.
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The Road Winners are really not all that bad of a tire but people tend to switch to radial tires for better feel. I would recommend that you run stock tire pressures on the bike and from what you told me, you were running a slightly higher tire pressure but I'm not all too familiar with the ratings of the cbr250. Dropping a pound or two will help since she's pretty light too. Most bike are set up for an average 150 lb rider.

There are 4 good options.
If you choose to stick with bias ply:
Bridgestones BT45s are great. Long lasting, awesome wet weather traction due to all the siping. and dual compound with great grip on the track for cornering.

Pirelli Sport Demons. Very sticky bias ply tire but will wear down faster due to it being a softer compound.

Radial tires:
Bridgestone S20: These replaced the BT-16s. Great traction with wet and dry and okay good wear. Siping did improved slightly for wet weather riding. They did wear down a little bit faster than the old BT-16. for the rear, youll have to run a 150/60/17 tire since it's the smallest size they have.

Pirelli Diablo Rosso II: Really sticky tires with okay wet weather handling. It'll wear down faster than the S20s and these tires are more track oriented/aggressive riding.

Lane selection also critical when riding in the rain. I tend to ride on the left tire tracks. Middle ground is usually slick from all the oil and especially when you approach a stop sign. Most roads are crowned so the water can run off.
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The Road Winners are really not all that bad of a tire but people tend to switch to radial tires for better feel. I would recommend that you run stock tire pressures on the bike and from what you told me, you were running a slightly higher tire pressure but I'm not all too familiar with the ratings of the cbr250. Dropping a pound or two will help since she's pretty light too. Most bike are set up for an average 150 lb rider.

There are 4 good options.
If you choose to stick with bias ply:
Bridgestones BT45s are great. Long lasting, awesome wet weather traction due to all the siping. and dual compound with great grip on the track for cornering.

Pirelli Sport Demons. Very sticky bias ply tire but will wear down faster due to it being a softer compound.

Radial tires:
Bridgestone S20: These replaced the BT-16s. Great traction with wet and dry and okay good wear. Siping did improved slightly for wet weather riding. They did wear down a little bit faster than the old BT-16. for the rear, youll have to run a 150/60/17 tire since it's the smallest size they have.

Pirelli Diablo Rosso II: Really sticky tires with okay wet weather handling. It'll wear down faster than the S20s and these tires are more track oriented/aggressive riding.

Lane selection also critical when riding in the rain. I tend to ride on the left tire tracks. Middle ground is usually slick from all the oil and especially when you approach a stop sign. Most roads are crowned so the water can run off.
you the man, thanks for the info. I dropped the pressure to 30. See how that feels for her.
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How much wet weather riding time does she have?
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Big ole Props for riding in the rain! I ride 24/7, in rain, sun, hail, sleet, and 30 degree weather. you fair weather . lol

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How much wet weather riding time does she have?
not much at all.
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And how much rain had fallen before she got on the road? I'm an all-weather rider too on my VFR and it can get a little sketchy until it rains a bit to wash all the junk away. I take it REAL easy when it just starts to rain or only rained enough to barely get the road wet. Then after it's rained a while, I pick up the pace and start yelling at cars that are holding me back in corners.

Oh, and I was running BT-016Pro's on the VFR most recently, then put a BT-023 on the rear when the 16pro was toast. The front 16pro is still looking pretty good at almost 8000 miles
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And how much rain had fallen before she got on the road? I'm an all-weather rider too on my VFR and it can get a little sketchy until it rains a bit to wash all the junk away. I take it REAL easy when it just starts to rain or only rained enough to barely get the road wet. Then after it's rained a while, I pick up the pace and start yelling at cars that are holding me back in corners.
It was early so could havE been early when it first started to rain so ya.. Probably crud everywhere
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She has to be extra cautious riding in anything but fair weather for now since she's in the "getting back on the saddle" phase. I dont mean that in any kind of negative way. We just repaired a 2012 black one just like hers bc the rider was blown by the wind at highway speeds off the road. It was covered by insurance...but it was not a good site and a long downtime.

Any bike and rider can get surprised by the elements. The 250 is light and nimble so it can take quite a beating from even a crosswind. Some more seat time should help her get accustomed to how the bike will act and how she can react. Be safe and ive recommended some of the same tires Cuong mentioned before for our cbr250 owners. We dont stock them usually but we can get them next day most of the time. Be safe.
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not much at all.

Could have something to do with it. Not that I'm recommending she go out and ride in adverse conditions but lack of "what to expect" could play a role in it. I know I was super cautious the first couple of times I got caught out. I thought the bike was going to slip on almost every paint strip.
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