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Old 03-06-2013, 05:30 PM   #21
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I started on my 636. It isn't much different that a 250 if you ride defensively.
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Old 03-06-2013, 05:42 PM   #22
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I'm in the same boat as you. I plan on upgrading to a 500+ something this year. I have 8000+ miles over the last 15 months.

The 250 has ample power for anything on the street. But I would like a little more hp and wind protection.

Only you will know what you can handle.

My list of possible upgrades is: (Leaning torwards the FZ6)
SV650/1000
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Old 03-06-2013, 05:53 PM   #23
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For what it's worth I am on dual sports. The bigger the bike the harder it is to turn / swerve and emergency stop. Don't underestimate how hard it is to change directions on a bigger / longer bike.

Another view point, "How to Ride a Motorcycle" says wait two years before going larger.

Here is another quick checklist.

1. Have you read Proficient Motorcycling?



2. Have you learned to implement the ideas above?

3. Read and implemented Ride Hard / Ride Smart?



4. Have and always wear full gear including knee pads and Kevlar lined (or leather) pants?

5. Park the bike when its too hot for gear?

6. Before each ride do you do a bike pre-check?

7. Before each ride do you say to yourself "I am invisible" and ride like it.

8. Before each ride do you say to yourself "I am responsible for myself and the actions of every other driver" and ride like it.

9. Before each ride do you say to yourself "It does not matter how stupid/oblivious the other drivers are, I am the one who will get killed if I let them get away with it?"

10. When presented with a problem (merging driver, red light ahead, car waiting at intersection ahead) is your first instinct to get off the gas and brake at least a little, perhaps significantly depending on the situation?

11. When coming to a light to you approach it VERY slowly while watching your rear mirrors. When finally stop do you point the bike between the cars ahead and continue to watch mirrors (in 1st gear, clutch in ready to go). When light turns green do you continue to watch rear view mirrors until car in front of you moves away and you are approaching intersection?

There is your list. Enjoy the new bike or the journey to getting one.
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Old 03-06-2013, 05:58 PM   #24
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One more thing

Anyone can learn to twist a throttle.

Learning to control a bike is a very different skill.
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Old 03-06-2013, 07:48 PM   #26
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I started on my 636. It isn't much different that a 250 if you ride defensively.
Really!!
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Take advantage of the factory demos. They are free and offer a variety of machine to try on for size. Yamaha just had one, Kawasaki usually has one in the summer (wish they would change that). It's good to have some dream bike to aspire to, but an entry level bike is a great tool fot learning. Even advanced riding techniques can be practiced on them. Take popping wheelies. Try it on a 250/300, and the light frame and modest power makes practicing relatively safe and easy. Upgrade to a 600 too quick and that 120 hp will bite you hard if you are not careful.
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Old 03-06-2013, 08:10 PM   #28
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start with a busa then move down to a 250, thats how real riders do it.....
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Really!!
Sarcasm? Lol
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Old 03-06-2013, 10:18 PM   #30
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I started on an R1. Well, restarted that is. I had a Katana 750 back in the 90's so I really can't count that. I'm older now so I knew to respect the bike and what it can do. I probably would have gotten hurt when I was younger and was indestructible. It's all about respect and understanding. If you respect the bike and what it can do and understand what you can and can't do, larger bikes are nothing to be afraid of. Like the other said though, don't be afraid to look outside the SS group. I'd like to get a Ducati Streetfighter or a KTM SuperDuke as a second bike (wife doesn't agree).
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Old 03-07-2013, 12:10 AM   #31
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My buddies and I bought a Honda NightHawk 250, rode it for a month and then got sport bikes. Me and one other got a ZZR600, the other 2 got GSXR 600s. Even though the ZZR was an older bike the performace was almost on par with the GSXR600 but was much cheaper and easier to ride. 2 years later I moved to a ZX10.
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Old 03-07-2013, 12:22 AM   #32
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it's not stupid to start from a 600cc ..... it's not RECOMMENDED.... I started with my zx6r and I have no problem on it ... it's about how you are as a individual.... if you don't have the respect for a bike you can kill yourself on a 250 ...
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Old 03-07-2013, 12:24 AM   #33
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Anyone can learn to twist a throttle.

Learning to control a bike is a very different skill.
exactly....
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Old 03-07-2013, 12:49 AM   #34
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Old 03-07-2013, 01:26 AM   #35
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I don't understand the "beginner bike" theory... buy what you're comfortable with, what you want, and ride within your limits.

Honestly... a 600 or a 1000 won't kill you (more than any other bike, at least).
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Old 03-07-2013, 01:50 AM   #36
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Given the absurdity of taking my advice about starter bikes and upgrading - here's my 2cents:

Don't worry about time lines or upgrade paths. What I'd do is ride your Ninja300 as much as possible. That's a great bike in every way. Great looks. Great tech. Great efficiency. Way better than anything else in the quarter-liter "class".

Then, after a year or so, you'll start to notice that you'd really like your bike to have or do something in particular. I have no idea what that would be. Maybe it's stuff like flying down fire roads. Maybe long-distance touring. Maybe you want to have super-strong launches off the line. Maybe you wish you had different ergos. Maybe you get bitten by the track bug and reach the limits of anything non-RR.

Heck, maybe you realize that you really want to wear vintage horse leather jackets, Levi's, and conquer the mean streets of Montrose on an unconventional cafe racer.

Anyway, after you have a year and lots of seat time you'll notice that you'll be wanting.... something more. Whatever that is that you want more of - that's what you look for.
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Old 03-07-2013, 01:53 AM   #37
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I think a 600+ is fine honestly... I started off with a 900rr. It really depends on what kind of riding you would like to accomplish. are you just cruising around houston? are you riding around the highways and just running around like that? OR do you want to hit up the twisties, back roads, do some track time? That could help you in between a 1000 or 600. I am so glad I did not buy a 250 for my first bike. would have been a waste of money for me. Also your weight, maturity level, 1000's arent scary or anything people hype them up too much. theyre fast, but not like youre automatically going to die fast. just keep it under control
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youre ready for this

http://www.racingjunk.com/Drag-Bikes...-hayabusa.html


The bike makes 509 hp at 30 pounds. 7 second bike. its got a little more get go than the 300. perfect.
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Given the absurdity of taking my advice about starter bikes and upgrading - here's my 2cents:

.....

Then, after a year or so, you'll start to notice that you'd really like your bike to have or do something in particular. I have no idea what that would be. Maybe it's stuff like flying down fire roads. Maybe long-distance touring. Maybe you want to have super-strong launches off the line. Maybe you wish you had different ergos. Maybe you get bitten by the track bug and reach the limits of anything non-RR.

Heck, maybe you realize that you really want to wear vintage horse leather jackets, Levi's, and conquer the mean streets of Montrose on an unconventional cafe racer.

Anyway, after you have a year and lots of seat time you'll notice that you'll be wanting.... something more. Whatever that is that you want more of - that's what you look for.
So True!

Two other things to consider.

1. It is much more fun to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow! That is one reason a big fast bike is so much more dangerous. In order to have fun one almost always has to speed beyond his sightline and physics has a way of occaisionally smacking him when he does.

2. Before purchasing I tried dealer/factory demo ride(s) (If you have to wait 6 months, use it to learn to fully control your existing ride). I thought I wanted a Harley till I test rode one. Decided I didn't want a Harley. Talk about not maneuverable! Compared to my 200cc dual sport it was like riding down the street in a converted Lazyboy with the handling to match! Not good if I ever had to dodge traffic. Then I test drove all the Yamaha dirt/enduro models. Next I test drove the WR250r and realized the stock WR did not have enough down low for me. My son rented a WR250r and decided that with a few mods it would be perfect for him. Different strokes for different folks and the demo rides illustrated the point very well.
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How many miles on the 300?

Maybe I should hold off on buying a bike and just buy yours...
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