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Old 03-06-2013, 11:15 AM   #1
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Lots of info on what kind of bike to start off with, but what about info on upgrading

There are tons of stories and info about how dumb it is to start off with a 600 cc sportbike and why the learning curve on a 250 etc. is so much smaller than a supersport.

My question is, where is the graph/checklist/guide to when a person is actually ready for a supersport.

I love my bike, and it has enough speed for me now, but I'm wondering about the future...and I love to look at bikes online lol. I've only been riding for 4 months now and just broke 3k miles but I am wondering at what point will I not be retarded for getting a zx6r or r6.

My throttle control seems fine, along with my breaking and clutch use. I don't think about shifting at all, especially since im using all 6 gears multiple times throughout my commute. I am so so very far from even beginning to master the 300 in terms of it's limits but I will probably want to upgrade before that happens. I assume I could continue to learn for years on this bike.

When do you guys think is a good time to start looking, and are there any certain special skills I should really master before upgrading?

I'm not even sure why I want a 600 to be honest, they just offer a little bit more features and power of course. I'm pretty sure the 300 is the bike I will be tracking as well as commuting on...the 600 might just be good for getting me into trouble on public roads lol.
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Old 03-06-2013, 11:19 AM   #2
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If you have self control then a 600 is no problem. TylerNinja became TylerRR and jumped from a 250 to a CBR1000RR in a year I believe, but he was a very mature kid
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Old 03-06-2013, 11:35 AM   #3
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Its all about self control. 250-1000+ CC bikes all start at 0mph. Respect the throttle and you will be fine.
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self control is very important, an experienced rider can ride a 1000cc like a 250 if he has the control... but i think if you are focused on self improvement and not in over your head, you are ready to move up. throttle control is your biggest importance i think when moving to a larger cc, you have got to learn how the bike reacts to how much throttle, and much much power is needed to break traction etc, all that will come with experience and ride time on a 600 if you choose to take you time and learn on the saddle.. some ppl can ride a 600 for a year, and learn nothing, and others can learn in a few weeks, but you seem like a modest person, so i think you are ready
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Old 03-06-2013, 11:40 AM   #5
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You should really look outside of the supersport genre.

Unless you like havign to rev above 8,000 to get even half your power, being hunched over, paying a lot for insurance, and having a high risk of theft, that is.

Of course I went from ninja500 to zx-6r (now my track bike), but in hindsight I wish I had jumped on the Z1000/SV1000 earlier.

Got a Speed Triple now and no turning back.

All three of the aforementioned 1000's are cheaper to insure than SS's, and much less likely to get jacked.

Also good- SV650 (great resale value), ninja650, aprilia shiver, buell xb9-12, etc


EDIT: buy a cheap 600 and track that. Save your 300 for commuting- your back and wallet will thank you. SS's below on track not traffic
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I rode my 250 for a bout 6months before I got my F4i. At first it was my wrist that hurt really bad till I learned you were to suppose to use your lower back and legs to support your weight. When I first drove my 600cc the first thing I relized was the take off and how much faster it is. Since I only weigh 125 pound I can left off the clutch slowly without putting gas and cruise at 8-11 mph lol
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Old 03-06-2013, 12:30 PM   #7
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Yup, remember that kid. Good kid.


Where is Racer X? I'm curious to see what his advice/input is on this.

Would be curious to know when he decided it was time for a busa...
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Old 03-06-2013, 12:46 PM   #8
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i say you move up once you are good as cuongnuts on his 250.
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Old 03-06-2013, 01:24 PM   #11
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Like everyone else said and as long as you don't have your ego ahead of you. I upgraded to a 600 in 4 months after I bought my 250.
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Is that how you decided to do it?

Where you ready when you wrecked it?


Is that why you decided to sell it altogether?




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Old 03-06-2013, 01:34 PM   #13
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Everyone needs to go back down to a 250.
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Old 03-06-2013, 01:36 PM   #14
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Good imput guys, defintely helped me out with my decision. I started off on a 600, and I have been trying to teach a couple of buddies how to ride and it seems that most people can get over their head very easily.
I think its all about discipline. Personally I come from a cage racing background and even then I always had some set of morals or "ethics" when it came to being behind the wheel. That much power can easily become your worst enemy. Just always know to respect the bike, and most of all have tons of discipline. Its like a martial art of riding
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Old 03-06-2013, 01:38 PM   #15
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Lots of info on what kind of bike to start off with, but what about info on upg

There is no graphs or charts. You are the only one who knows you. I started on a ZX6R. After several 600's I have a Busa with a built motor and nitrous. Never been down in 13 years of riding
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yes yes yes!
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Self control is very important as is respect for the bike.

Remember, every rider is different.

Just because Rider A starts off on a 250, doesn't mean that Rider B will do just as good on the same power plant.
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600SS isn't really all that more difficult to ride than your 300. They have gobs of power high in the RPM, but down low they are pretty much pussycats. To get yourself in trouble power-wise, you would really need to wind up the throttle in a bad way. Personally, I wouldn't want to ride the gixxer600 on the street. For the daily grind, there are plenty of other bikes with power characteristics and ergos better suited than race replicas.

I like what ZX-Dominance said. Don't box yourself in with the SS. There is no predetermined upgrade path. Don't go looking at what other peep's rides. Ask yourself what you like about your current 300 and what a new bike would offer that the 300 doesn't already give you. Upgrade or buy another bike ONLY when you have a clear focus on the kind of riding you want to do.
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